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by surreptitious57
Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:28 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Free Will vs Determinism
Replies: 1141
Views: 19742

Re: Free Will vs Determinism

I am not an absolute nihilist who can not see any meaning to anything at all. Instead I am a positive nihilist who finds meaning in his own life in the absence of meaning per se. I also have no fear of death or of being in an eternal state of pain free non consciousness after I die. Nihilism is ther...
by surreptitious57
Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:55 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Free Will vs Determinism
Replies: 1141
Views: 19742

Re: Free Will vs Determinism

I have a question for determinism and free will experts Is it deterministic whether a person wins a lottery It is deterministic that a person will win the lottery but not which specific person. You could increase the odds of winning by buying more tickets than anyone else but that does not guarante...
by surreptitious57
Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:39 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Free Will vs Determinism
Replies: 1141
Views: 19742

Re: Free Will vs Determinism

But I think that points to the deeper problem : namely that Materialism is existentially bankrupt. It is the most desolate and sad of all dogmas really : no morals no purpose no teleology no hope no soul no God and no person I think you are conflating materialism with nihilism for surely that is th...
by surreptitious57
Wed Jul 19, 2017 6:31 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: Which would you prefer?
Replies: 25
Views: 302

Re: Which would you prefer?


Objective reality is indeed reality as it is while interpretations of it are subjective and therefore only partly true if at all
by surreptitious57
Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:49 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Free Will vs Determinism
Replies: 1141
Views: 19742

Re: Free Will vs Determinism

But what I am also demonstrating I would hope is that the physicalist or materialist view is not a happy one and results in some very very unsavoury consequences. That does not in itself make it a wrong explanation but it does mean that anyone who is willing to buy it consistently is Any position I...
by surreptitious57
Tue Jul 18, 2017 3:37 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: How do Christians Expect to Convert Atheists?
Replies: 691
Views: 6302

Re: How do Christians Expect to Convert Atheists?

I gave an answer that I thought at the time was true or as close to as possible but whether it is actually true is another matter. I know nothing so I cannot say which is why I avoid having fixed opinions if I can You say you know the perceiver can be perceived ... but you are not actually sure as ...
by surreptitious57
Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:01 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: How do Christians Expect to Convert Atheists?
Replies: 691
Views: 6302

Re: How do Christians Expect to Convert Atheists?

If you were not aware you were making a truth claim or any claim how do you know what answer to give ? If you were not aware then who was answering the question You say you cannot demonstrate the truth claim because you were not aware of it so how can you know you ve made the claim without being aw...
by surreptitious57
Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:56 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: How do Christians Expect to Convert Atheists?
Replies: 691
Views: 6302

Re: How do Christians Expect to Convert Atheists?

Can you see you have just made a truth claim ... But it is no good just making a truth claim without supporting that truth claim with some kind of empirical evidence just so we can all be shown the answer you have given is a correct truth claim Can the knowledge ( Yes the perceiver can be perceived...
by surreptitious57
Mon Jul 17, 2017 5:06 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: How do Christians Expect to Convert Atheists?
Replies: 691
Views: 6302

Re: How do Christians Expect to Convert Atheists?

I think some see the distinction between existence and non existence as important because it affects them
Whereas I see it as simply being a transition from one state to another and which essentially is all that it is
by surreptitious57
Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:58 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: How do Christians Expect to Convert Atheists?
Replies: 691
Views: 6302

Re: How do Christians Expect to Convert Atheists?

Dontaskme wrote:
can the perceiver be perceived
Yes the perceiver can be perceived
by surreptitious57
Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:23 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: How do Christians Expect to Convert Atheists?
Replies: 691
Views: 6302

Re: How do Christians Expect to Convert Atheists?

What is your reason for being here by the way What is your actual purpose for being online here in this forum if you do not want to influence others My purpose till my final day is to learn and grow and being on this forum is a means towards that end I am definitely not here to influence others for...
by surreptitious57
Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:09 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: How do Christians Expect to Convert Atheists?
Replies: 691
Views: 6302

Re: How do Christians Expect to Convert Atheists?

ken wrote:
surreptitious57 wrote:
As I have explained many times I avoid other human beings
being here in this forum I see as the very opposite of avoiding human beings
This is cyberspace not meatspace and it is only in the latter that I avoid them
For I do not see any human beings here merely the thoughts of human beings
by surreptitious57
Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:50 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: How do Christians Expect to Convert Atheists?
Replies: 691
Views: 6302

Re: How do Christians Expect to Convert Atheists?

I am less certain about anything the older I get and so even if I do make absolute statements it does not mean that I think they are forever true Why then make absolute statements What is the purpose of doing so Absolute statements imply certainty although I see less reason to reference them as I g...
by surreptitious57
Sun Jul 16, 2017 6:50 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: How do Christians Expect to Convert Atheists?
Replies: 691
Views: 6302

Re: How do Christians Expect to Convert Atheists?

As I already said I do not use words like Mind or God because of their metaphysical baggage and for me a better one
is Reality. That simply means ALL THERE IS and unlike the other two is to all intents and purposes rather impersonal
by surreptitious57
Sun Jul 16, 2017 6:33 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: How do Christians Expect to Convert Atheists?
Replies: 691
Views: 6302

Re: How do Christians Expect to Convert Atheists?

ken wrote:
Do you really believe that you can use any words that you like to any person
that you like and that you have no control whatsoever over how they respond
Yes I do because I cannot access their emotions only they can
And how they respond to me is therefore entirely up to them