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Age wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 2:38 am Why are you not able to?

Able. Just not interested in you. Sorry.

Are you sure only one interpretation of who I am is "right"? Whether it is or not will have zero impact on who Gary Childress actually, objectively is. If I'm wrong in my opinion, the fault lies with me, not with the objective truth about Gary. OK. So who am I "objectively"? I d...

Whether you "think" X or Y is right or wrong has zero impact on what God knows is actually right or wrong in a given situation. And what you say God knows about right or wrong has zero impact on what I think is right or wrong. Nobody has to be concerned about what you think is right or wr...

That should please you. 🙂 I'm gratified, actually. Talking with you has exposed to me the right route for debunking Subjectivism. And that, for me, has been the whole value of the debate in the first place: to improve our mutual understanding of the situation. We can both see Subjectivism's Achille...

I don't see what meaning God gives to anything. Because it means there's an independent Center of meaning. Things are right and wrong not because people think they are, but because they actually are, in their relation to the Center. That makes objectivity possible. Absent God as the Center, there's...

There are many interpretations of the divine. There might be many imaginings of who Gary Childress is. But only one will still be right. Are you sure only one interpretation of who I am is "right"? Whether it is or not will have zero impact on who Gary Childress actually, objectively is. ...

It doesn't matter what you say, it won't change anything. Actually, belief in Subjectivism won't change any facts. That's the truth. And now it's obvious you aren't really a Subjectivist at all. That should please you. 🙂 I'm gratified, actually. Talking with you has exposed to me the right route fo...

Or what if there is no God at all? Then what? Easy. Then all morality is fake. Nihilism follows. I don't see what meaning God gives to anything. Because it means there's an independent Center of meaning. Things are right and wrong not because people think they are, but because they actually are, in...

Yes, I do sometimes behave as if my moral opinions are a matter of objective truth, I'm only human. If everybody does it, then everybody knows Subjectivism is false. They just don't perhaps know WHY it is false. But they know. And even if they can't say, they ACT as if it's false, anyway. It doesn'...

I'm not as distracted by the bible as you,... "Distracted"? You asked me a question of Biblical import, one that only God could answer. There are many interpretations of the divine. There might be many imaginings of who Gary Childress is. But only one will still be right. Or what if there...

Okay, so where do you suppose I'm getting my objective morality from? I think morality is objective. That means it exists independent of your assessment. Right will be right, even when you don't know it; and wrong will be wrong, whether you know it or not. But your appeal to Moral Objectivity is de...

You just can't help yourself, can you? You are a Moral Objectivist, even while pleading you're not. Okay, so where do you suppose I'm getting my objective morality from? I think morality is objective. That means it exists independent of your assessment. Right will be right, even when you don't know...

Will Bouwman wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 8:08 pm

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:54 pm

Will Bouwman wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:41 am From your reading, when do you imagine souls are created?

We are not told.

I'm not as distracted by the bible as you,...

"Distracted"? You asked me a question of Biblical import, one that only God could answer. So if you've got a better source of information, what is it?

Just obnoxious. Are you saying only "I feel obnoxiousness," or "He IS obnoxious"? Both. Then you're admitting to meaning the second one, and the first is irrelevant. You're admitting that you are making an objective judgment. It has to be, if you have any reasonable expectation ...

Just obnoxious. It has to be one or the other. There's no third option. So which is it? Just obnoxious. Are you saying only "I feel obnoxiousness," or "He IS obnoxious"? And not even willing to have your opinion known, it would seem. Quite the contrary: I'm not renowned for my r...