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by Immanuel Can
Wed May 15, 2024 7:23 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: TRUMP AHEAD?
Replies: 287
Views: 2959

Re: TRUMP AHEAD?

Sculptor wrote: Wed May 15, 2024 5:57 pm ...serious athropology
I think you mean "anthropology." :lol: It's good it's "serious," though, or I'd have thought it was lame.
by Immanuel Can
Wed May 15, 2024 5:19 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: TRUMP AHEAD?
Replies: 287
Views: 2959

Re: TRUMP AHEAD?

No, it isn't what I think morality is; it is what morality is to me, and to a good many others here, it seems. Then you "incorporate" an idea that isn't even possibly true. It's incoherent -- The words, "true" and "coherent", are not applicable. They're applicable to e...
by Immanuel Can
Wed May 15, 2024 5:08 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: TRUMP AHEAD?
Replies: 287
Views: 2959

Re: TRUMP AHEAD?

You might... :D Yeah, I thought so. You've got nothing. You are, as usual, just making an arse of yourself. https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/tradition/g28565280/matriarchal-societies-list/ You poor soul...that's a puff piece. Having a woman in a leadership role doesn't make a society "...
by Immanuel Can
Wed May 15, 2024 2:29 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: TRUMP AHEAD?
Replies: 287
Views: 2959

Re: TRUMP AHEAD?

Sculptor wrote: Wed May 15, 2024 11:25 am
Immanuel Can wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 11:36 pm
Sculptor wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 10:18 pm Wrong on both counts
Great that you think so, so confidently. Prove it.
You might...
:D Yeah, I thought so. You've got nothing.
by Immanuel Can
Wed May 15, 2024 2:28 pm
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 10041
Views: 924596

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

If your appreciation of Polanyi extends to agreement, you can't claim science as an objective source of evidence that "In the beginning, God created the heavens and the Earth." If you are thinking that, then I have to point out that you haven't understood Polanyi. I do recommend you read ...
by Immanuel Can
Wed May 15, 2024 2:11 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: TRUMP AHEAD?
Replies: 287
Views: 2959

Re: TRUMP AHEAD?

I know for sure that I have feelings about right and wrong, and that is what morality is, and that is what I am referring to when I talk about morality. You are obviously talking about something else entirely. I'm not talking about the incoherent concept you think "morality" is, that's fo...
by Immanuel Can
Tue May 14, 2024 11:36 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: TRUMP AHEAD?
Replies: 287
Views: 2959

Re: TRUMP AHEAD?

What kind of morality did the ancient humans need? There's no ancient society that doesn't have a conception of morality. Just like there are no ancient Atheist societies, and no ancient societies where women ruled over men. Some things are just universal. Wrong on both counts Great that you think ...
by Immanuel Can
Tue May 14, 2024 7:24 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: TRUMP AHEAD?
Replies: 287
Views: 2959

Re: TRUMP AHEAD?

Morality isn’t necessary. Crime and Punishment refutes that quip. It's about the effects of bucking inherent morality. What kind of morality did the ancient humans need? There's no ancient society that doesn't have a conception of morality. Just like there are no ancient Atheist societies, and no a...
by Immanuel Can
Tue May 14, 2024 7:23 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: TRUMP AHEAD?
Replies: 287
Views: 2959

Re: TRUMP AHEAD?

We know that everybody has subjective moral opinions, so the only question is, is there any other kind of morality; It isn't, actually. Because you haven't established that any of those opinions are actually "moral." I know for sure that I have feelings about right and wrong, and that is ...
by Immanuel Can
Tue May 14, 2024 1:41 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: TRUMP AHEAD?
Replies: 287
Views: 2959

Re: TRUMP AHEAD?

No God, no morality. If you think otherwise, just show what I asked you to show: that you can justify one moral precept. Just one . Any one , with no reference to objectivity. We know that everybody has subjective moral opinions, so the only question is, is there any other kind of morality; It isn'...
by Immanuel Can
Tue May 14, 2024 1:34 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: TRUMP AHEAD?
Replies: 287
Views: 2959

Re: TRUMP AHEAD?

If God does not exist objective morality may still have a basis other than God. I'd actually like to see somebody do that. People talk about it, but they never demonstrate it. Take any precept you like. Let's say...a permission to do something we'd all concede is "good," such as, say: Sav...
by Immanuel Can
Tue May 14, 2024 1:23 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: TRUMP AHEAD?
Replies: 287
Views: 2959

Re: TRUMP AHEAD?

I don't really care if you change your mind or not. I suspect you're not going to go on a murder spree any time soon, (not that you'd last 10 minutes in a fight with a real psychopath probably). :D Well, this is a philosophy site, Gary, as you know. And the idea is that people will give logic and e...
by Immanuel Can
Mon May 13, 2024 7:32 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: TRUMP AHEAD?
Replies: 287
Views: 2959

Re: TRUMP AHEAD?

If God does not exist objective morality may still have a basis other than God. I'd actually like to see somebody do that. People talk about it, but they never demonstrate it. Take any precept you like. Let's say...a permission to do something we'd all concede is "good," such as, say: Sav...
by Immanuel Can
Mon May 13, 2024 7:23 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: TRUMP AHEAD?
Replies: 287
Views: 2959

Re: TRUMP AHEAD?

No there isn't. Yeah, there is. But you have to allow the evidence to be recognized as evidence. If you just gratuitiously insist there's none, and never look, then not surprisingly, you'll remain convinced of that. But the deficiency won't be in the evidence. Then all I will say is that I have nev...
by Immanuel Can
Mon May 13, 2024 2:27 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: TRUMP AHEAD?
Replies: 287
Views: 2959

Re: TRUMP AHEAD?

It looks like the discussion now hinges on whether God exists. If there is no God, there’s no morality. Since there’s no such thing as objective morality and furthermore subjective morality is subjective and worthless, God is either worthless or doesn’t exist. IC's claims about morality are inextri...