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That's not an either-or, Gary; it's a both-and. Both God and morality are objective realities, the latter being entirely dependent on the former. Saying they are does not make it so. No, rationality makes it so. There is no rationality by which it can be shown that God is an objective reality. God ...

This shit doesn't even begin to resemble a philosophical argument, it reads like a poorly written political speach on behalf of some political party. You should delete it out of shame. Better to indulge his crazed objective morality obsession here, than take it out on the streets, where he might we...

:D I'm not "demolishing morality," Gary. I believe in morality, and I'm arguing for it. It's Subjectivism that makes morality impossible, and which inevitably leads logically to Nihilism. Ironically, Nietzsche, the man who famously said "God is dead," agrees with me entirely on ...

Age wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2024 4:03 am

If it is just to hard or to difficult for you to just answer any number of the limited number of clarifying questions here, then okay.

Thanks for your understanding.

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2024 3:52 am

Harbal wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2024 3:34 am I promise you, I have prepared accordingly.

See you there.

Unless I break a mirror, or walk under a ladder, or something.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sat May 11, 2024 8:18 pm
It's an interesting sight to see a person who professes belief in God trying to demolish morality in the name of insisting that his God must necessarily exist.

Religion makes a man do strange things, Gary.

But all will have to answer for what they choose to do, in the Judgment. And what objectively true facts do you know about "the Judgement"? Just what the Word of God says. "Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat upon it, from whose presence earth and heaven fled, and no plac...

Maybe ordinary people never do so, at least in those words. Probably, what they ask themselves is, "Is it really right/wrong to..." And that's extremely common: It is very common, indeed, and I do that myself. But so what? So I'm pretty much like everyone else in that respect. So? So ther...

How often do people ask each other if their moral views are just their subjective opinion, or matters of objective fact, ffs? Maybe ordinary people never do so, at least in those words. Probably, what they ask themselves is, "Is it really right/wrong to..." And that's extremely common: It...

This is getting ridiculous beyond words. Only because you're making it so, by trying to put words in my mouth, so that then you can say, "This is ridiculous." You are making it so by presenting a completely unrealistic representation of the world, where people behave in some strange way t...

But, "Immanuel can" also believes that it has the 'rational faculties' that enable it to 'reason out' there is such a thing as 'objective moral truth'. So, which one of you two human beings is, exactly, Right and Accurate here? I think I am right. IC's argument is that a thing is morally ...

I'm not committed to subjectivism, whatever that actually is. I simply have the rational faculties that enable me to reason out there is no such thing as objective moral truth. But, "Immanuel can" also believes that it has the 'rational faculties' that enable it to 'reason out' there is s...

They don't have democracy because SOMEBODY doesn't want them to have it. Or rather, "somebodies." And do you suppose those somebodies asked the Chinese people whether they were subjectivists before they decided not to let them have democracy? If they weren't asked, then by Subjectivism's ...

Some do, some don't, clearly. If everybody "preferred" democracy, then we'd have nothing but democracies. Do you think the Chinese people don't have democracy because they don't want it, then? 🤔 They don't have democracy because SOMEBODY doesn't want them to have it. Or rather, "some...

That's circular. There has to be a better, independent reason that elections are legitimate, or all you've done is essentially say, "You've got to respect the government, because the government says you do." I think people respect elections because they prefer democracy to the alternative...