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Some do, some don't, clearly. If everybody "preferred" democracy, then we'd have nothing but democracies. Do you think the Chinese people don't have democracy because they don't want it, then? 🤔 They don't have democracy because SOMEBODY doesn't want them to have it. Or rather, "some...

That's circular. There has to be a better, independent reason that elections are legitimate, or all you've done is essentially say, "You've got to respect the government, because the government says you do." I think people respect elections because they prefer democracy to the alternative...

Where is the code that says "elections" count? I imagine it's written in the law somewhere. You "imagine"? And you "imagine" that the same law upon which elections depend says elections "must" be respected? :shock: I'm not going to make a guess at how that is...

If they're not responding to objective moral truths, then what they are doing is exactly what Nietzsche said: merely imposing their will on us, using pure power, and nothing more. They have no legitimacy. If they are elected politicians, they do. Where is the code that says "elections" co...

Nobody is bound by your twinges, either, I'm very pleased to say? Nobody is bound by ANY twinges. That's why Subjectivism does no moral "work" at all. It doesn't enable a social structure, it doesn't inform a justice system, it doesn't govern relationships among neighbours, it doesn't ins...

Nobody is bound by ANY twinges. That's why Subjectivism does no moral "work" at all. So you think that all the people who formulate our laws, or are responsible for codes of conduct within various public bodies are adhering to some objective moral rulebook? :? If they're not responding to...

Of course you are. It's just that nobody else has to. Even you don't have to, as soon as you have a different twinge, in fact. So we're not really bound by any...what's the word...oh, yeah..."morality." :wink: Nobody is bound by your twinges, either, I'm very pleased to say? Nobody is bou...

Zenita01 wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2024 2:20 pm Develop the Leader within You 2.0 by John Maxwell;

Do you want to lead anybody in particular, or will anyone do?

I have argued; There is an inherent "oughtness to breathe" within all humans; (Details of my argument is all over in this section of the forum) i.e. this oughtness is driven by a neural algorithm which is supported by physical neurons and neural network, thus biological. In parallel to th...

I hate to point this out, but if morality is subjective, so is your belief in rights. Rights are a moral concept, not one you can glean from objective observation. And I hate to point this out to you, but I am free to believe in, and value, whatever I like. Of course you are. It's just that nobody ...

That's because while opinions are subjective, the process of voting is objective. Yet another reason why Subjectivism is stupid: it ignores the impact of what you do on other people. The point is, our place in society, and our rights, have nothing to do with the subjectivity of our morality. I hate...

Yes, he does. And that's just fine: every American citizen should have that right. But to suppose that any argument against any candidate that is made by a Subjectivist means something important...that's quite a different question. But you told him nobody has to take any notice of his subjective op...

Right. That's the Subjectivist problem. Nothing they affirm in the moral realm has any logical obligation for anybody else. He still gets to vote, though. Yes, he does. And that's just fine: every American citizen should have that right. But to suppose that any argument against any candidate that i...

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 5:47 pm

commonsense wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 5:36 pm no one is obligated to follow my morality,

Right. That's the Subjectivist problem. Nothing they affirm in the moral realm has any logical obligation for anybody else.

He still gets to vote, though.

Yes. Always trust the Anthony Faucis of the world. They're "the Science." :roll: On a tangential note, there's a Biblical principle that says basically, "if you rebuild something you just destroyed, you prove you screwed up." (Gal. 2:18). So we should ask the people who believed...