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- Tue May 07, 2024 1:21 am
- Forum: Political Philosophy
- Topic: TRUMP AHEAD?
- Replies: 96
- Views: 1295
Re: TRUMP AHEAD?
Let's clear one thing up right from the start; the Bible is not a repository of truth, Let's clear this up: one day, you'll find out whether or not that's true. Come off it, the Brothers Grimm produced stuff more plausible than the Bible. As I understand it, God does not dispense morality, he just ...
- Mon May 06, 2024 11:27 pm
- Forum: Political Philosophy
- Topic: TRUMP AHEAD?
- Replies: 96
- Views: 1295
Re: TRUMP AHEAD?
Because stealing is incommensurable with the character and will of God. But you will say, "Well, there's no God." I would have to say that; otherwise I would be lying, which I consider to be morally wrong. But would only be a subjective taste, so not really "wrong," even for you...
- Mon May 06, 2024 9:01 pm
- Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
- Topic: Christian Civilization -- The Central Issue
- Replies: 780
- Views: 44331
- Mon May 06, 2024 8:55 pm
- Forum: Ethical Theory
- Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
- Replies: 9872
- Views: 903107
Re: Is morality objective or subjective?
Maybe the same way I would deal with them. I would try to put as much distance between me and them as possible and if someone told me that they had murdered someone and/or had sex with an underage child, I would have to report it out of concern for public safety. Why report it if it's just an expre...
- Mon May 06, 2024 8:19 pm
- Forum: Ethical Theory
- Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
- Replies: 9872
- Views: 903107
Re: Is morality objective or subjective?
I once had a brother-in-law like you, he wasn't religious or anything silly like that, but he couldn't be honest to save his life. :| What on earth is "dishonest" about the above? You asked for MY answer, not one you had prepared in your own mind, presumably. I gave you MY answer. And sin...
- Mon May 06, 2024 8:13 pm
- Forum: Political Philosophy
- Topic: TRUMP AHEAD?
- Replies: 96
- Views: 1295
Re: TRUMP AHEAD?
If you were asked why stealing is wrong, what would you say? Because stealing is incommensurable with the character and will of God. But you will say, "Well, there's no God." I would have to say that; otherwise I would be lying, which I consider to be morally wrong. So you won't believe t...
- Mon May 06, 2024 7:33 pm
- Forum: Ethical Theory
- Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
- Replies: 9872
- Views: 903107
Re: Is morality objective or subjective?
8) No. I'm asking a perfectly fair question, which I've asked you several times, and which you've never once been able to answer. So who's "avoiding" now? :? I saw it. But it contained a variety of untruths and misrepresentations of what you'd achieved, so I ignored it in kindness, so I w...
- Mon May 06, 2024 7:21 pm
- Forum: Political Philosophy
- Topic: TRUMP AHEAD?
- Replies: 96
- Views: 1295
Re: TRUMP AHEAD?
And you can't suggest one moral value that objectivism can necessitate for one rational person, either. Sure I can. Objectivism says it's immoral to steal, for example. Your only problem with that is presumptive: that is, that not believing in God, you do not believe in any Lawgiver or Ultimate Aut...
- Mon May 06, 2024 7:09 pm
- Forum: Ethical Theory
- Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
- Replies: 9872
- Views: 903107
Re: Is morality objective or subjective?
When you say "subjective" morality, do you mean to say that morality is "subjective" in the sense that it is something that applies to conscious subjects and not to "objects" like rocks or conscious matter? I take it you're not saying that morality is non-existent or n...
- Mon May 06, 2024 6:14 pm
- Forum: Ethical Theory
- Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
- Replies: 9872
- Views: 903107
Re: Is morality objective or subjective?
Sure we do. I want to get stuff for nothing. Stealing is great for that. So what are you condemning that you like? :? Then you don't use subjective morality. But my reasons would just be a matter of my subjective opinion, so how is that objective? Then you're not using subjective morality because y...
- Mon May 06, 2024 5:54 pm
- Forum: Ethical Theory
- Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
- Replies: 9872
- Views: 903107
Re: Is morality objective or subjective?
With good reason: as I've shown, it can't even make sense for the Subjectivist , and even when we grant him all his suppositions from the get-go. Great. Then give me one moral value that the Subjectivist can affirm on the basis of his Subjectivism. And you're not avoiding? :) 8) No. I'm asking a pe...
- Mon May 06, 2024 5:34 pm
- Forum: Political Philosophy
- Topic: TRUMP AHEAD?
- Replies: 96
- Views: 1295
Re: TRUMP AHEAD?
"Prevent"? Nobody can prevent a Rotherham gang member from committing rape. Ah, we're back to Rotherham again. It's as if you think I'm somehow responsible for that unfortunate Rotherham incident. :( Not at all, of course. But your justified antipathy to what they did is what's telling......
- Mon May 06, 2024 3:33 pm
- Forum: Ethical Theory
- Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
- Replies: 9872
- Views: 903107
Re: Is morality objective or subjective?
I'm not avoiding. I know perfectly well, and have always said, that a person who disbelieves in God has no hope of establishing reasons to believe in objective morality. And since you reject God, that's you...and I'm honouring your supposition and treating it as serious. And I know perfectly well t...
- Mon May 06, 2024 3:31 pm
- Forum: Political Philosophy
- Topic: TRUMP AHEAD?
- Replies: 96
- Views: 1295
Re: TRUMP AHEAD?
They are, but not only that. If that's all they are, then you have no right at all not to be robbed, raped, enslaved, killed, cheated, oppressed, denied access, excluded, abused or slighted. And nobody who wants to rob, rape, enslave, kill, cheat, oppress, deny you access, exclude, abuse or slight ...
- Mon May 06, 2024 3:30 pm
- Forum: Political Philosophy
- Topic: TRUMP AHEAD?
- Replies: 96
- Views: 1295
Re: TRUMP AHEAD?
They are, but not only that. If that's all they are, then you have no right at all not to be robbed, raped, enslaved, killed, cheated, oppressed, denied access, excluded, abused or slighted. And nobody who wants to rob, rape, enslave, kill, cheat, oppress, deny you access, exclude, abuse or slight ...