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Maybe ordinary people never do so, at least in those words. Probably, what they ask themselves is, "Is it really right/wrong to..." And that's extremely common: It is very common, indeed, and I do that myself. But so what? So I'm pretty much like everyone else in that respect. So? So ther...

How often do people ask each other if their moral views are just their subjective opinion, or matters of objective fact, ffs? Maybe ordinary people never do so, at least in those words. Probably, what they ask themselves is, "Is it really right/wrong to..." And that's extremely common: It...

This is getting ridiculous beyond words. Only because you're making it so, by trying to put words in my mouth, so that then you can say, "This is ridiculous." You are making it so by presenting a completely unrealistic representation of the world, where people behave in some strange way t...

But, "Immanuel can" also believes that it has the 'rational faculties' that enable it to 'reason out' there is such a thing as 'objective moral truth'. So, which one of you two human beings is, exactly, Right and Accurate here? I think I am right. IC's argument is that a thing is morally ...

I'm not committed to subjectivism, whatever that actually is. I simply have the rational faculties that enable me to reason out there is no such thing as objective moral truth. But, "Immanuel can" also believes that it has the 'rational faculties' that enable it to 'reason out' there is s...

They don't have democracy because SOMEBODY doesn't want them to have it. Or rather, "somebodies." And do you suppose those somebodies asked the Chinese people whether they were subjectivists before they decided not to let them have democracy? If they weren't asked, then by Subjectivism's ...

Some do, some don't, clearly. If everybody "preferred" democracy, then we'd have nothing but democracies. Do you think the Chinese people don't have democracy because they don't want it, then? 🤔 They don't have democracy because SOMEBODY doesn't want them to have it. Or rather, "some...

That's circular. There has to be a better, independent reason that elections are legitimate, or all you've done is essentially say, "You've got to respect the government, because the government says you do." I think people respect elections because they prefer democracy to the alternative...

Where is the code that says "elections" count? I imagine it's written in the law somewhere. You "imagine"? And you "imagine" that the same law upon which elections depend says elections "must" be respected? :shock: I'm not going to make a guess at how that is...

If they're not responding to objective moral truths, then what they are doing is exactly what Nietzsche said: merely imposing their will on us, using pure power, and nothing more. They have no legitimacy. If they are elected politicians, they do. Where is the code that says "elections" co...

Nobody is bound by your twinges, either, I'm very pleased to say? Nobody is bound by ANY twinges. That's why Subjectivism does no moral "work" at all. It doesn't enable a social structure, it doesn't inform a justice system, it doesn't govern relationships among neighbours, it doesn't ins...

Nobody is bound by ANY twinges. That's why Subjectivism does no moral "work" at all. So you think that all the people who formulate our laws, or are responsible for codes of conduct within various public bodies are adhering to some objective moral rulebook? :? If they're not responding to...

Of course you are. It's just that nobody else has to. Even you don't have to, as soon as you have a different twinge, in fact. So we're not really bound by any...what's the word...oh, yeah..."morality." :wink: Nobody is bound by your twinges, either, I'm very pleased to say? Nobody is bou...

Zenita01 wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2024 2:20 pm Develop the Leader within You 2.0 by John Maxwell;

Do you want to lead anybody in particular, or will anyone do?

I have argued; There is an inherent "oughtness to breathe" within all humans; (Details of my argument is all over in this section of the forum) i.e. this oughtness is driven by a neural algorithm which is supported by physical neurons and neural network, thus biological. In parallel to th...