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by Harbal
Mon May 20, 2024 10:45 am
Forum: Introduce Yourself
Topic: Hello From Emmanuel Katto Uganda
Replies: 8
Views: 90

Re: Hello From Emmanuel Katto Uganda

This is a little bit racist; … (dont mention gold bullion or Prince Gabanji your uncle that just needs to unlock his bank account with a large deposit to make us all rich) I would call it an example of stereotyping, rather than racism, and stereotyping isn't always unjustified. That's not to say I ...
by Harbal
Mon May 20, 2024 10:00 am
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: TRUMP AHEAD?
Replies: 420
Views: 5246

Re: TRUMP AHEAD?

I should just point out that while the practice, or exercising, of morality collectively seems to be your main point of interest, it isn't really mine, I have not the slightest idea why you would think that. I've been speaking about the definition and meaning of morality, not the exercising thereof...
by Harbal
Sun May 19, 2024 11:01 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: TRUMP AHEAD?
Replies: 420
Views: 5246

Re: TRUMP AHEAD?

In order to be called moral, meaning ethically right, something must conform to a set of criteria that is deemed to be morally desirable. That in itself imposes no duty on anyone. Please note that, in your case, and in the case of so many who write on this forum, the notion of a *metaphysical autho...
by Harbal
Sun May 19, 2024 10:55 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: TRUMP AHEAD?
Replies: 420
Views: 5246

Re: TRUMP AHEAD?

In order for morality to be effective -result in some "good"- there needs to be some compulsion to abide by it, so some feeling of obligation, or "duty", would be necessary in that respect. I think we're starting to find a point of agreement here. If somebody had a desire or ide...
by Harbal
Sat May 18, 2024 9:56 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: TRUMP AHEAD?
Replies: 420
Views: 5246

Re: TRUMP AHEAD?

Funny...that's exactly the first question I was going to put to you. So I agree: let's start there. I have some idea of what "morality" means. You have none I can identify. So help me out here. Let's agree on what any "moral" system (objective, subjective, Nihilistic, or whateve...
by Harbal
Sat May 18, 2024 5:19 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: TRUMP AHEAD?
Replies: 420
Views: 5246

Re: TRUMP AHEAD?

We can do that. Okay, let's do it then. You could start by explaining what you think morality actually is. Funny...that's exactly the first question I was going to put to you. So I agree: let's start there. I have some idea of what "morality" means. You have none I can identify. So help m...
by Harbal
Sat May 18, 2024 2:13 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: TRUMP AHEAD?
Replies: 420
Views: 5246

Re: TRUMP AHEAD?

I'm not going to change my mind about the subjective nature of morality, because I know what it is from personal experience. You can continue this for years, IC can never imagine what you're talking about because he has never experienced the feeling of the conscience before. Now most sociopaths are...
by Harbal
Sat May 18, 2024 7:47 am
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: TRUMP AHEAD?
Replies: 420
Views: 5246

Re: TRUMP AHEAD?

No. I'll even go over the many arguments I've offered before, if you like If you think you have an argument that is remotely convincing, to see it is what I would like. We can do that. Okay, let's do it then. You could start by explaining what you think morality actually is. As far as I can make ou...
by Harbal
Sat May 18, 2024 1:16 am
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: TRUMP AHEAD?
Replies: 420
Views: 5246

Re: TRUMP AHEAD?

I'm not worried about arguing that. So that is your position on the argument for objective morality, is it, you've decided not to attempt one? No. I'll even go over the many arguments I've offered before, if you like If you think you have an argument that is remotely convincing, to see it is what I...
by Harbal
Fri May 17, 2024 11:48 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: TRUMP AHEAD?
Replies: 420
Views: 5246

Re: TRUMP AHEAD?

What "personal experience" convinces you that you've encountered what morality is, and how have you established that it was "subjective"? And what do you do with the fact that a "subjective" view of morality makes the whole idea of morality itself ridiculous, because i...
by Harbal
Fri May 17, 2024 10:31 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: TRUMP AHEAD?
Replies: 420
Views: 5246

Re: TRUMP AHEAD?

Well, as soon as we dispatch with Subjectivism, maybe we'll talk about that. But let's see Subjectivism stand on its own feet, first -- if it's a credible view, it really should be able to do that. I'm not going to change my mind about the subjective nature of morality, because I know what it is fr...
by Harbal
Fri May 17, 2024 7:51 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: TRUMP AHEAD?
Replies: 420
Views: 5246

Re: TRUMP AHEAD?

You haven't read much of what I've said. This isn't my first rodeo here, you know. :wink: Okay, I haven't seen an argument, and I doubt that you could come up with an even slightly persuasive one. Well, as soon as we dispatch with Subjectivism, maybe we'll talk about that. But let's see Subjectivis...
by Harbal
Fri May 17, 2024 7:07 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: TRUMP AHEAD?
Replies: 420
Views: 5246

Re: TRUMP AHEAD?

The first statement is true, plausibly; the second, verifiably not. There is page after page here of me arguing, with reasons, for objective morality. You haven't got an argument. You haven't read much of what I've said. This isn't my first rodeo here, you know. :wink: Okay, I haven't seen an argum...
by Harbal
Fri May 17, 2024 5:48 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: TRUMP AHEAD?
Replies: 420
Views: 5246

Re: TRUMP AHEAD?

The first statement is true, plausibly; the second, verifiably not. There is page after page here of me arguing, with reasons, for objective morality. You haven't got an argument. All you've got is, there is a God, and he decides what's moral and what's not. That's it; that's all you've got. That's...
by Harbal
Fri May 17, 2024 3:23 pm
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: TRUMP AHEAD?
Replies: 420
Views: 5246

Re: TRUMP AHEAD?

You have said absolutely nothing to change my view, and you have said absolutely nothing to support your own. The first statement is true, plausibly; the second, verifiably not. There is page after page here of me arguing, with reasons, for objective morality. You haven't got an argument. All you'v...