Philosophy Now Forum

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 6:43 pm
I was seeing a therapist for a while who was also a minister who told me that the reason Christians embalm their dead is so that they can reinhabit their bodies when they are resurrected.

I'm glad to say that isn't common practice in the UK. It's grotesque.

phyllo wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 9:08 pm A fish need not be present for there to be a fishy smell.

So true.

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 9:01 pm

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 8:33 pm Objective morality is a fiction...

Here's the interesting thing about a fiction: it only works if it gives off the illusion of fact.

So that is why you deny the Bible is fiction.

Ummm...nope, sorry. :? Not even remotely interested, actually. It was you who brought it up -- If you don't want to hear about it, has it occurred to you to stop referring to it? Gladly. Now, what did you want to say, before you did the spontaneous, "Here are my proclivities" thing? Nothi...

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 8:37 pm

Harbal wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 8:28 pm Nevertheless, you are obviously fascinated by it.

Ummm...nope, sorry. Not even remotely interested, actually. It was you who brought it up --

If you don't want to hear about it, has it occurred to you to stop referring to it?

What if you don't have a sense of smell? What if one person finds that something smells fishy, but another thinks it smells peppery, with a slight hint of cinnamon? What is the objective truth of the matter then? If you don't have the sense of smell then you don't have the organ for detecting smell...

phyllo wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 8:15 pm

I don't mind my beliefs and identity being questioned, and I don't find the traffic light analogy useful, so if you would at least stop presenting it to me, I would be vey grateful.

You got it bud.

Thank you.

Since you weren't asking me for any reason, it seems rather gratuitous...and out of context... Asking you what? I don't know. Why were you suddenly talking about your private sexual proclivities? I don't have any private sexual proclivities, my habit of shagging as many married women as I can lay m...

Why do you keep using the traffic lights analogy, rather than refer to the issues you are thinking of directly? I use it because traffic lights are less threatening than morality. Talk about morality tends to make people defensive. They think that their values, their identity, their beliefs are bei...

If a claim is subjective, you cannot check it against anything, and that subsequently brings into question whther it can have a truth value at all. That would make subjective morality pretty well useless. The fact that everyone agrees that Paris is smelly cannot make it and objective fact, it just ...

I know that morality involves a group of people. So I don't see how everyone can have his own personal subjective morality. Which is what your statements seem to suggest. That's the part that I find baffling. One person may have moral values and opinions that do not coincide with another person's, ...

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 7:19 pm

Harbal wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 6:42 pm

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 6:40 pm
Oh. You were just unilaterally declaring in favour of extramarital sexual congress? Why did you want to bring that up here?

That's just the way I am.

Since you weren't asking me for any reason, it seems rather gratuitous...and out of context...

Asking you what?

I know what morality is, and I'm sure you do, and any difference between us is probably just a matter of terminology, so I don't think it matters much. I know that morality involves a group of people. So I don't see how everyone can have his own personal subjective morality. Which is what your stat...

Can somebody please, post a link to the post where Harbal explained it. Because I can't find it. TIA It is spread throughout the thread. I wouldn't bother looking if I were you, you won't agree with any of it. Look, if you want to go with objective morality, it's fine with me. Try not to enjoy your...

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 6:40 pm

Harbal wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 6:33 pm

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 6:20 pm
That's what you mean. What was your question to me?

What question?

Oh. You were just unilaterally declaring in favour of extramarital sexual congress? Why did you want to bring that up here?

That's just the way I am.