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by Veritas Aequitas
Tue May 21, 2024 5:24 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 10069
Views: 1122217

Re: What could make morality objective?

Now, answer this question: If there are no noumena, then of what are phenomena phenomena? Or consider this: If there are no things-in-themselves, then appearances are not appearances of things-in-themselves. Or try this: What does a transcendental ego transcend? You haven't begun to think criticall...
by Veritas Aequitas
Tue May 21, 2024 4:26 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 10069
Views: 1122217

Re: What could make morality objective?

As far as I'm aware it was Descartes who posited the idea of the mind being a separate non-physical "substance" distinct from the body. And, again, as far as I'm aware, the jury is still in deliberation as to whether that is the case or not. Yes it was Descartes [theistically driven] who ...
by Veritas Aequitas
Tue May 21, 2024 4:09 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Incest Deterrence & Morality is Objectivity
Replies: 92
Views: 2176

Re: Incest Deterrence & Morality is Objectivity

As I had stated the encoded inbreeding avoidance algorithm [IAA] is encoded [as evident] but has varying degrees of activeness in different humans and groups. Inbreeding has potential risks depending on whether it is closely linked relations or distance ones. This is why inbreeding between closely ...
by Veritas Aequitas
Mon May 20, 2024 8:25 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 10069
Views: 1122217

Re: What could make morality objective?

Here's VA's Kantian scenario. A bunch of transcendental egos sit around in illusory bodies, emitting illusory farts from the illusory decomposition in their illusory guts of a remarkably good but sadly illusory dinner, talking to each illusory other using illusory language, and coming to the illuso...
by Veritas Aequitas
Mon May 20, 2024 5:28 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 10069
Views: 1122217

Re: What could make morality objective?

Here's VA's Kantian scenario. A bunch of transcendental egos sit around in illusory bodies, emitting illusory farts from the illusory decomposition in their illusory guts of a remarkably good but sadly illusory dinner, talking to each illusory other using illusory language, and coming to the illuso...
by Veritas Aequitas
Mon May 20, 2024 5:06 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Incest Deterrence & Morality is Objectivity
Replies: 92
Views: 2176

Re: Incest Deterrence & Morality is Objectivity

There is a big range of living organisms within the animal [non-human] kingdom. I did not mention about frequencies related to animals. However, I did qualify ' higher animals ' where incest avoidance is very evident. Upon reaching maturity, either the males or females will leave the pack, pride or...
by Veritas Aequitas
Mon May 20, 2024 2:37 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: No Humans = No Human-based Reality
Replies: 11
Views: 121

Re: No Humans = No Human-based Reality

I should have added to the above "truism." No Humans = No absolutely human-based independent Reality out there. but there is a lot of nuances to it to be deliberated philosophically; Some people on this site think that "the stuff out there" is reality. You, on the other hand, th...
by Veritas Aequitas
Mon May 20, 2024 2:24 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 10072
Views: 931720

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

2 + 2 = 4 is only mathematically true, i.e. contingent within the rules and axioms of mathematics. It is not real in the real-sense, i.e. of which scientific reality is the most credible and objective. Demonstrate to me empirically 2 + 4 = 4 is absolutely true regardless of conditions and humans. I...
by Veritas Aequitas
Mon May 20, 2024 2:14 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 10072
Views: 931720

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

Erm. This is a contradiction. 1 There is no human-independent reality 'out there'. 2 There is a human-independent reality 'out there'. And the rider that antirealists don't maintain the existence of a human-independent reality as an ideology is bs. 1. There is a human-independent reality 'out there...
by Veritas Aequitas
Sun May 19, 2024 8:35 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 10069
Views: 1122217

Re: What could make morality objective?

There is no way Kant was or would have been an Indirect Realist. Kant was the founder and introduced the term 'realism' into philosophy. To Kant, both direct realism and indirect realism [absolutely mind-independent reality] are taboo to him. Abstract Realism takes many forms. The aim of this paper ...
by Veritas Aequitas
Sun May 19, 2024 6:31 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: What could make morality objective?
Replies: 10069
Views: 1122217

Re: What could make morality objective?

Whoa. Who says that existence has anything to do with the existence of the mind? I think existence is physical or nothing. And if the mind and perception are physical, then the claim that perception has to be 'indirect' is incoherent. So we can ignore the direct/indirect realism issue. As an antire...
by Veritas Aequitas
Sun May 19, 2024 5:56 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 10072
Views: 931720

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

It is impossible for "things that just are the case" to exists as things-in-themselves... First there is no fixed mind-independent reality. Reality is always changing in relation to the human realization of reality. There is no mind independent reality-as-it-is... The antirealist [Kantian...
by Veritas Aequitas
Sun May 19, 2024 5:44 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: Is morality objective or subjective?
Replies: 10072
Views: 931720

Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

"Mathematics nuances"? :lol: Do carry on. That is, mathematics is fundamentally grounded on human consensus implicitly. No, it isn't. 2+2=4, regardless of how many people agree or disagree. That's reality. Are you sure? 2 + 2 = 4 is only mathematically true, i.e. contingent within the rul...
by Veritas Aequitas
Sun May 19, 2024 3:10 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: No Humans = No Human-based Reality
Replies: 11
Views: 121

Re: No Humans = No Human-based Reality

Sculptor wrote: Sat May 18, 2024 12:39 pm Typical antopomorphic delusion.
No wonder you talk such bollocks on moralty. This explains it all.
See my above explanation above on why the OP is critical for humanity's progress.
by Veritas Aequitas
Sun May 19, 2024 2:40 am
Forum: Ethical Theory
Topic: No Humans = No Human-based Reality
Replies: 11
Views: 121

Re: No Humans = No Human-based Reality

No Humans = No Human-based Reality Talk about truisms :lol: I should have added to the above "truism." No Humans = No absolutely human-based independent Reality out there. but there is a lot of nuances to it to be deliberated philosophically; If the above is not true, then the belief is, ...