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chaz wyman, that evolutionary creationist Francisco Jose Ayala avers that we need Him to overcome dread and to have purpose and values, which is the purpose of religion, but I alarm the world that no, see a counselor to overcome that dread and find your own purposes and meanings! His argument is the...

Most supernaturalists have never really been exposed to atheism! What their faiths teach them about it errs. Really as that survey notes, many don't really know much about religious matters in distinction to us non-theists! We know the above arguments and we read scriptures, finding them eviscerati...

What arguments do you use for or against His existence? I find that, Alvin Plantinga notwithstanding, that the argument from physical mind alone refutes the very notion of God! Therefore, He cannot exist, affirming ignosticism! :lol: Lamberth's atelic or teleonomic argument alone also refutes any i...

[1] Craig begs the question against us who do find infinitly, substantiated entities such as those Hilbert Hotels. [2 He begs the question against us who find that we can by successive addition have w+w*. [3] And he begs the question in assuming that every series formed by that successive series mu...

I ask any serious inquirers what about my points about the empirical the atelic and other arguments in the post before my last one? We naturalists find no empirical basis for God, and any religious experience is just ones own mental states at work. We find no intent behind the Bog Bang and miracles...

Wootah, what woo! When you " contradict" that item, you are merely changing it rather than contradicting it. Sophistry gets no where with us rationalists! Francesa, Wootah and advanced theologians just play word games, eh? Advanced supernaturalists allege that He is immune from the problem...

Ergo, then don't be any kind of creation as all creationism contradicts what we know empirically. The empirical argument [Atheist@ Evoolve Blog] notes that there are no empirical bases for Hm. The atelic or teleonomic is part of that one as it illuminates that there is no intent that empricists can...

Craig is counting on nobody noticing that he is introducing a red herring- an ignoratio elenchi- with the Hilbert Hotel and the other analogies as they all beg the question of a beginning. Others do answer those analogies, and he has his responses. Actually, no one would have to count rooms and boo...

Theists use the argument from God that our rights stem from Him so that they are inalienable rather than from the state and thus revocable. That is a false dilemma. Our rights stem from our level of consciousness. Indeed, we naturalists not only find that for us, so does the UN, in effect. And some ...

:mrgreen: Kyle Williams keelhauls this argument: In an infinite number of days, every day must arrive on time, a beginningless time line, though, doesn't begin on a particular day [ that no starting point that Craig begs, S.G.] , By definition, it does not begin at all. It has been following day by ...

To aver that God is omnipresent means that He cannot be a person, affirming ignosticism. He cannot be transcendent, because Existence is all [Lee Smolin]. As there is nothing to compare Existence with, one cannot aver a cause for it. Aquinas begs the question of the First Cause in averring that if ...

Apaosha, fine. Aquinas speaks not of First Cause in time but as the Ultimate Explanation, but as He is just God did it, He explains nothing whatsoever. Those two threads expose His nothingness. It is William Lane Craig, who begs the question of a starting point in his Kalam form, of the cosmological...

Apaosha, thanks for defending ignosticism. Please folks, ponder the thread the ignosic-Ockham and the new one arguments about God.

Cornman/Lehrer "Philosphical Problems and Arguments" like Hosper's Michael Scriven "Primary Philosophy" mainly for its takeon theistic arguments :lol: Michael Shermer "The Science of Good and Evil" humanist ethics- covenant morality for humanity " Why People Believ...

Cornman/Lehrer "Philosphical Problems and Arguments" like Hosper's Michael Scriven "Primary Philosophy" mainly for its take theistic arguments Michael Shermer "The Science of Good and Evil" humanist ethics- covenant morality for humanity " Why People Believe Weird ...