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I disagree. Benatar is right. Even a broken clock can be right twice a day. His analysis has some merit, but ultimately, he is wrong. At least, that is what I believe. A broken clock can also be wrong 10 times a day. Benatar is right tenfold more than your belief, which is wrong. It's certainly wro...

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:48 pm

withcaremorality wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:45 pm

Benatar is wrong.

I disagree.



Benatar is right.

Even a broken clock can be right twice a day. His analysis has some merit, but ultimately, he is wrong. At least, that is what I believe.

Even if choice is ultimately illusory, people still have to act as if it isn't, and this is precisely why moral discourse exists. If one is determined to hate, they might also go on to love. Hating or Loving life, is just the same one energy arising as two opposing energies within itself, there is ...

Even if choice is ultimately illusory, people still have to act as if it isn't, and this is precisely why moral discourse exists. If one is determined to hate, they might also go on to love. Hating or Loving life, is just the same one energy arising as two opposing energies within itself, there is ...

The goodness of existence should be measured against the reality of life lives upon life or symbolically the snake consuming its own tail which is called The Ouroboros. It has been argued that in fact, nothing is really happening in this situation that despite the pain and suffering involved it is ...

If not existing is neither a harm nor a benefit, then it cannot be said to be preferable to existence. But if no one chooses to be born or not to be born...then the concept of ''preference'' remains an ever present moot and invalid concept, insofar as the concept is just an artifcial conception of ...

If not existing is neither a harm nor a benefit, then it cannot be said to be preferable to existence. But if no one chooses to be born or not to be born...then the concept of ''preference'' remains an ever present moot and invalid concept, insofar as the concept is just an artifcial conception of ...

As long as there are good people like you out there, I believe that love will triumph over loathing. Of course, if one already exists, then they wouldn't want to choose an inferior existence. As for your point about chocolates, I would say that, with all due respect, when one finds true happiness, ...

One cannot ask for a life they would cherish before they exist either. I could just as easily say that extreme pessimists only know existence and not the void (wherein one cannot choose to not exist). They can continue saying that existence is bad, but this doesn't change the ineluctable fact that ...

The goodness of existence is debateable, if the value of existence is in experience both of suffering and joys, non- existence beats existence as existence's sole purpose is to stay in existence which is futility in itself. A better life through chemistry----lol!! Non-existence hardly seems more pu...

But, for me personally, I am glad I exist. Just maybe you say that is because you already exist...so it's not like you have a choice to live your existence or not...you have to live it whether you like it or not...You did not choose to be born, that choice was made by someone else. So you have to p...

We don't choose to be born but, once we are, we learn how to live. If we were never born, we would never learn anything. We learn to die. Death is our only achievement in life. That's the stark, raw reality, some people refuse to face. The void is the only reality there is. Striving for achievement...

That is a half hearted way of looking at life. That's probably because in life there are two sides to every story... 1: is Pain 2: is absence of Pain Choose your pleasure...and then decide if it's worth the price tag...does the price tag match the product. That's always worth weighing up...before w...

And you can almost certainly guarantee that anything that is GOOD for you, is seen as goodness, is certainly going to kill you. Any addiction is a serial killer. Imagine being born only to find out you are dying from the moment you are born...what's good about that? ...it's a dumb and stupid idea.....

The goodness of existence is debateable, if the value of existence is in experience both of suffering and joys, non- existence beats existence as existence's sole purpose is to stay in existence which is futility in itself. A better life through chemistry----lol!! Non-existence hardly seems more pu...