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We can imagine for a moment that our "creator" had some plans for our existence, and these plans include both concrete use during the allotted life and death as the disposal of the spent material. In this scenario, the meaning of our existence and death refers only to the creator and not ...

Why do you think life has a meaning? I assume, by "meaning", you mean some kind of purpose; a reason for your being here, but that would imply you were put here intentionally by something. As I said just above to the other poster, my position is "open minded". Totally different ...

I realised almost all the authors of my philosophical books have died. If death is for definite end of all the livings, then is there meaning in life? How do you define death, and meaning of life? To answer Zarathustra's spake: - Death delineates the end of a bardo* . - The purpose of life is to li...

You cannot have the meaning if you are seeking it. Because I don't have the meaning now, I am seeking it, until I do. Why do you think life has a meaning? I assume, by "meaning", you mean some kind of purpose; a reason for your being here, but that would imply you were put here intentiona...

Nothing last forever. BUT You avoided the question. Your opening post more than suggests that because people die, nothing means anything. THis imples that were there such a thing as immortality meaning would exist. Can we start again? As the OP, I was totally open minded on the issue of immortality...

Do you think meaning relies on immortality? Really? Is immortality even possible? Do you believe in it? Nothing last forever. BUT You avoided the question. Your opening post more than suggests that because people die, nothing means anything. THis imples that were there such a thing as immortality m...

bahman wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 1:27 pm

Zarathustra wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 12:49 pm

bahman wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 11:32 am
No, it is not a logical statement.

What is your logical statement on it?

You cannot have the meaning if you are seeking it.

Because I don't have the meaning now, I am seeking it, until I do.
I thought this was a valid logical statement.

I realised almost all the authors of my philosophical books have died. If death is for definite end of all the livings, then is there meaning in life? How do you define death, and meaning of life? Do you think meaning relies on immortality? Really? Is immortality even possible? Do you believe in it?

So you admit that you don't know what is the meaning of life yet claim that the meaning of life for you is seeking it!? Exactly. If I knew it, I wouldn't be seeking it, would I? Isn't it a plain natural and logical statement? No, it is not a logical statement. What is your logical statement on it?

Yes, there could not be death if there is no life but what this has to do with meaning? What is the meaning of life to you? I am a seeker. Seeking for the meaning of life is the meaning of life for me. So you admit that you don't know what is the meaning of life yet claim that the meaning of life f...

nemos wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 1:11 am

Zarathustra wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 1:06 am Realists are pessimists in the core.

Then drugs will be a pretty good antidote to pessimism?!

Depends on how deep the pessimism was, and also type of pessimism too.
Not all pessimists are same. Not all realists are same.
Not all drugs are same.

nemos wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 1:02 am

Zarathustra wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 12:52 am Would you say you could be a pessimist similar to Schopenhauer?

I'd like to think I'm a realist. But as many people, as many opinions.

Realists are pessimists in the core.

Life is harmful because it wears down the body. Life is a disease with 100% mortality. Only what remains has meaning, everything else is temporal and meaningless. From a biological point of view, individual interests may conflict with the interests of the species, and the interests of life as a who...

How do you suppose death can be defined, since you are asking? Not really, I have no awareness of being bored while asleep. Of course, in sleep you cannot know that you are bored. Would it mean that you are being deceived in sleep? I do have fun, my fun in life is looking forward and knowing I get ...

No, most of them would probably have died from something else. From not doing philosophy? Very possibly. It is a little known fact that Arthur Schopenhauer was not only a respected philosopher, but also an accomplished trapeze artist, which is quite remarkable considering he first took up the pract...