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by thata23
Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:43 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: The Struggle for the Soul of America
Replies: 237
Views: 33187

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"I think we are a social and co-operative species first and foremost." Yeah, yeah, yeah. Here's the thing: there's no universal standard for our 'social-ness' or 'cooperativness'...some of us truly need others while others don't. One size does NOT fit all. Oh yeah, you would be able to do...
by thata23
Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:41 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: The Ideal Ideology
Replies: 49
Views: 14539

Re: The Ideal Ideology

I`m not yet persuaded that most men want a family in order to somehow consciously prove themselves, they may of course well have to prove themselves in order to get there however, and this is a given. The ideal ideology must embrace the following, forgiveness, the creating of time for those people ...
by thata23
Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:47 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: The Ideal Ideology
Replies: 49
Views: 14539

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"People like you who are in leadership positions at corporations" There are no people like me in leadership positions at corps. People like me don't do well in hierarchies, don't do well in structured enviroments. People like me tend to work alone, to work for themselves. People like me i...
by thata23
Mon Jan 08, 2018 2:28 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: The Ideal Ideology
Replies: 49
Views: 14539

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"The reason you have a pessimistic view of humans is because..." ...I deal with 'em everyday, in large numbers. # "you have a pessimistic view of yourself" Nope. I'm rather pleased with myself most of the time. It's the rest of you people that grind my gears. # "It's people...
by thata23
Sun Jan 07, 2018 2:31 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: The Ideal Ideology
Replies: 49
Views: 14539

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"I really believe people would come together and help each other much more and be even more willing to learn knowing that they won't get used / taken advantage of and are simply doing it out of natural curiosity and desire to help society." Which leaves you with undesirables (like me) who...
by thata23
Sun Jan 07, 2018 2:28 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: The Ideal Ideology
Replies: 49
Views: 14539

Re: The Ideal Ideology

"Nature", so you are talking about a journey back in our social evolution, to living more naturally, to becoming better animals again? Money buying relationships? So you are advocating what then, to the least well educated doing the most reproducing. Actually, is that not already the case...
by thata23
Fri Jan 05, 2018 6:08 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: The Ideal Ideology
Replies: 49
Views: 14539

Re: The Ideal Ideology

What you envisage is a whole new world, but in might take hundreds of years, if ever, before people would fundamentally change that much. Initially much of most people`s time might be taken up in planning how to reinvent the familiar system, and meanwhile the country would be on its knees, we`d be ...
by thata23
Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:58 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: The Ideal Ideology
Replies: 49
Views: 14539

Re: The Ideal Ideology

But they do work today, not everybody that can work, and obviously not, but you do n`t seem to realize just how successful our present system actually is. We`ve arrived with it through a natural progression, and hence it is already on the optimal path for longer term even greater success. We are de...
by thata23
Wed Jan 03, 2018 5:34 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: The Ideal Ideology
Replies: 49
Views: 14539

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How in the first place do you know that anybody would want to work if there were no money? Say half the working population did n`t, that should n`t surprize anyone, how would you support those? Say these outcasts became the majority, that seems likely, how would you make it work then? The people th...
by thata23
Mon Jan 01, 2018 11:11 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: The Ideal Ideology
Replies: 49
Views: 14539

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henry quirk wrote: Mon Jan 01, 2018 12:31 am "there would not be a "delay" in getting things done as every person would know exactly their role"

How will folks arrive at this knowing?
Trial and error until everything starts flowing smoothly.
by thata23
Sat Dec 30, 2017 7:22 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: The Ideal Ideology
Replies: 49
Views: 14539

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"a money based system" That's right, and thank god for it. Money is a reservoir of value, a practical convenience, divorced from personality, philosophy, ideology, and prejudice. If you have it (along with native talent and drive) you are considerably more 'free' than if you don't. Folks ...
by thata23
Thu Dec 28, 2017 4:28 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: The Ideal Ideology
Replies: 49
Views: 14539

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"Do you feel as if you are smarter than people who support this type of society..." Sometimes. A few people are smarter than the multitude that favor a "one size fits all" society, it just doesn't work that way, people are individuals and need to be treated as such. If you want ...
by thata23
Thu Dec 28, 2017 4:22 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Why does evolution allow a trait which feels that we have free will?
Replies: 74
Views: 19615

Re: Why does evolution allow a trait which feels that we have free will?

The beauty of determinism is that reality is too complex for humans to come up with a deterministic convergence about the future on everything. But we must not make the mistake of man's inability to predict the future that the future is not predictable. It's predictable, all right; only human's min...
by thata23
Thu Dec 28, 2017 3:39 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: The Ideal Ideology
Replies: 49
Views: 14539

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"...as they might make them evil too." Doin' my best (to make him as 'evil' as me). Keep up the good work. :lol: You and I are in a similar situation except that my grandchildren are now in school and living with their parents. Till then they were with me most of the day and I couldn't te...
by thata23
Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:35 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Why does evolution allow a trait which feels that we have free will?
Replies: 74
Views: 19615

Re: Why does evolution allow a trait which feels that we have free will?

Even if free will does not exist, the fact that we can come up with thoughts in our head and put them on paper and make them into "reality" (even if this Earth isn't reality, it is still something different than a thought, meaning these thoughts exist in a different place than where they w...