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We all "have a horse in the race", because we all have our own unique belief system regarding our own existence. My point is that we can all choose to become truly just, and thus find true happiness, regardless of the "truth". Should the "truth" turn out to be theist, a...

“To be worthy of being called a god, a being must be truly just, and the truly just, have no desire to be regarded as gods. Therefore; there are no gods.” The correctness of this statement is blindingly obvious, but still many of you cannot see it. Why? You “have a horse in the race”. The problem wi...

But what's "just" about striving for an "equality" that reality shows us does not ever naturally exist? And how do we know that the moral or "just" goal would be "equality," especially since reality offers us no dimension in which we are "equal" inh...

Inequality is probably unavoidable in any system where all beings are not identical, truly just or otherwise. You've now deprived yourself of any rational basis to complain, then. You've accepted inequality as necessary. I have indeed, several times in fact, but I do see your point here. Bad phrasi...

....my knowledge only renders you a tw@t. But, sure, have another post of poor comprehension of reality.. You could have used the word "twat" there, (a) It wouldn't have bothered me, and (b) I doubt it would have been censored (as you can see). Anyway... This is incomprehensible to you ch...

If you are just making a personal-preference statement, why is anyone else bound to share it? I'd like to readdress that, because I realize that it can be interpreted differently. In my scenario, nobody is “bound” to do anything. However; if I am correct, another you will either accept it, or disco...

Once again, you simply begged your central question. How do you know that "equality" is "just"? What frame of reference can you, in an Atheist universe, call upon to invoke such a judgment? If you are just making a personal-preference statement, why is anyone else bound to share...

Most if not all devotees of the 'big three' religions would claim that their God is perfect. It follows then, that in their opinion, their God must possess 'perfect justness' * , along with 'perfect' every other attribute. After all, it's perfect. Most if not all devotees of the 'big three' religion...

And yet you cannot define or justify the concept in which you need us to agree with you in order to make your case: "truly just." You have no idea what "truly just" would mean, or how you would know whether or not something was "truly just." I would have to agree with ...

It isn't at all unclear; it is a version of the 'Ontological Argument'. You are trying to argue existence from predicates. Usually it is the other way round; God is perfect, it is more perfect to exist, therefore God must exist . You are describing some sort of a self-contradiction around the term ...

This is for clarification. It wasn't in my original post, but I discovered that it should have been. I define a 'god' as a being that fits the model of popular religions. That is to say: Created the Universe Omniscient Omnipresent All-powerful Loving Moral authority I do not consider a 'god' to be a...

Some people have suggested that this thread was started in order to promote an atheistic agenda. Just for clarity, I am not an atheist, anymore than I'm a theist. There is an often overlooked term agnostic. I did see a Richard Dawkins video in which he gradates atheism, but to me it's an all or noth...

Rhodnar: You keep assuming things. You assume an unequal society is unjust. How so? You assume a God would be concerned about justice. How so? There is certainly no logical basis for these claims, you are merely asserting them, and then you can't comprehend why others aren't going along with your a...

Concepts of good and evil do not necessarily come from "intelligence." This is not what neurobiology and evolutionary biology are telling us. It's also not what logic tells us as one cannot assign truth values to moral statements. Without a moral sense that is biologically wired into us, ...

What I thought was fairly straight forward seems to have caused some confusion. Perhaps it's too conceptual. Like an instruction manual written by somebody who knows “How”, and makes assumptions about how much the reader knows. I'll define terms in the hope of clearing up some of the confusion. God ...