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by Londoner
Mon May 29, 2017 4:04 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.
Replies: 272
Views: 2466

Re: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.

No. The field of history is in deed concerned with tracing cause and effect and a religious or political institution would be a very normative frame of reference for an historical investigation as judging from the existing corpus of historical works. It could be a frame of reference, certainly, but...
by Londoner
Mon May 29, 2017 1:15 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.
Replies: 272
Views: 2466

Re: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.

We absolutely would analyze a history in terms of the political and religious structures: the affect of Indo-European religion, the affect of American democracy, of the arrival of Buddhism in Japan. But not exclusively. All these things interact, so we cannot trace any specific cause-and-effect. Fo...
by Londoner
Mon May 29, 2017 10:47 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.
Replies: 272
Views: 2466

Re: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.

I've unpacked my narrative here, http://forum.philosophynow.org/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=22054&start=90#p312870 My narrative is existentialist, I contend that suppression of freedom of the person (inequality) and freedom of thought (dogma and superstition) drained the morale of the society, taking it f...
by Londoner
Sun May 28, 2017 5:32 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.
Replies: 272
Views: 2466

Re: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.

As you see, I have presented a narrative in which dogmatism, superstition and inequality saps the morale of the people, degrading the Near East from the apotheosis of human civilization to a war zone of ignorance and poverty. I'm open to hearing other narratives of Islamic civilization should you c...
by Londoner
Sun May 28, 2017 11:06 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.
Replies: 272
Views: 2466

Re: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.

If terrorist acts in the name of Islam.... When the US military kill somebody, are they acting ' in the name of' something? The answer could be; 'no'. That it is purely pragmatic, in furtherance of the material interests of the USA, that there is no moral consideration involved. That does not seem ...
by Londoner
Sun May 28, 2017 10:17 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.
Replies: 272
Views: 2466

Re: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.

Let me just very quickly sketch the deteriorating situation in Indonesia, a so-called moderate Muslim country and you can decide for yourself.... I hope this gives you some leads and information to decide if the "threat from the tiny numbers of real Islamists is utterly trivial"? If Indonesia is be...
by Londoner
Fri May 26, 2017 11:10 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.
Replies: 272
Views: 2466

Re: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.

I would think I was not. I would rather say I don't know what issue you're trying to make clear... Seleucus wrote that 'Islamic suicide attacks go back to the tradition of assassins from the time of the early caliphs.' I suggested that suicide attacks were not peculiar to Muslims and gave examples....
by Londoner
Fri May 26, 2017 7:51 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.
Replies: 272
Views: 2466

Re: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.

Me: The key point here is that it involves sacrificing your own life in order to achieve a moral/political/military objective. I'm saying this has long been considered praiseworthy. But that's the point. Jumping into a frozen river to save a child IS praiseworthy. So is the action of the solidier i...
by Londoner
Fri May 26, 2017 6:03 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.
Replies: 272
Views: 2466

Re: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.

Are you seriously suggesting you can't tell the difference between a suicide bomber and someone who, say, dives into a frozen river to save a drowning child? Oh, come now! :roll: We both know that you do not think that I was. Suicide bombing has to wait for the invention of modern explosives (where...
by Londoner
Fri May 26, 2017 5:47 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.
Replies: 272
Views: 2466

Re: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.

The morality in it is the destruction of the enemies of Western civilization. Defending you family and your people. Defending the apotheosis of civilization from heathens. As Jesus, the supreme warrior said, "I did not come to bring peace, I've brought the sword" (Matthew 10:34), or less well known...
by Londoner
Fri May 26, 2017 4:21 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.
Replies: 272
Views: 2466

Re: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.

What would be the point of remembering? That both George Wallace and Barack Obama both ran as Democrats would give you no insight into the politics of either of them. Oh, I disagree. I think you learn a very great deal by staying alert to the history there. But see if you agree: https://www.youtube...
by Londoner
Fri May 26, 2017 3:59 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.
Replies: 272
Views: 2466

Re: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.

What differentiated the violence committed by Muslims from that committed by the West in the Middle-East is that Western violence is in the service of defeating Islamism and vanguarding Western civilization, Islamists by contrast pursue Islamic society. Western civilization is something considerabl...
by Londoner
Fri May 26, 2017 1:27 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.
Replies: 272
Views: 2466

Re: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.

Let me get this right - you consider the US motives as Christian directed right? Just because some of the US politicians and military are 'Christian' doesnt mean they are claiming it is Christian inspired or motivated. They would have a hard time finding direction from Christ on such matters - not ...
by Londoner
Fri May 26, 2017 11:40 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.
Replies: 272
Views: 2466

Re: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.

Immanuel Can wrote:
Fri May 26, 2017 2:24 am
They also want you to forget that the party of slavery, the KKK and segregation was the "liberal" pack, i.e. the Democrats.
What would be the point of remembering? That both George Wallace and Barack Obama both ran as Democrats would give you no insight into the politics of either of them.
by Londoner
Fri May 26, 2017 9:00 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.
Replies: 272
Views: 2466

Re: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.

75% of that count comes from a single incident twenty-two years ago, the Oklahoma City bombing. Islamists are currently banging that number off every ten days. Islamism is a significantly more serious problem. What counts as 'Islamism' if we are counting? For example, if one Muslim kills another Mu...