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by Londoner
Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:59 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: 100% Proof That Gods Do Not Exist
Replies: 352
Views: 3480

Re: 100% Proof That Gods Do Not Exist

Sorry, but I'm not going to let semantical games sidetrack me. I think I spoke quite succinctly In other words, you are unwilling explain what the words you use mean. It is your argument that is built on playing games with language. For example, you do realise that: God=Being=Necessary Being, but G...
by Londoner
Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:47 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: 100% Proof That Gods Do Not Exist
Replies: 352
Views: 3480

Re: 100% Proof That Gods Do Not Exist

If anything that can happen happens, then either God happens or is impossible -- again, no middle ground. The middle ground is the lack of clear meaning in the words ' happen ' or ' exist' . Does ' God happens' mean ' a palpable physical body enters our universe '? Or 'an idea enters my mind '? Or ...
by Londoner
Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:54 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: 100% Proof That Gods Do Not Exist
Replies: 352
Views: 3480

Re: 100% Proof That Gods Do Not Exist

Guess...probability estimate...taking a shot... These terms are distinct only by the variable of how much information is potentially involved in each case -- if at all. It's not really clear at which point an "estimate of probability," an "empirical judgment," or a "shot" turns into a "guess," in f...
by Londoner
Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:56 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Free Will vs Determinism
Replies: 1072
Views: 18921

Re: Free Will vs Determinism

But if that's a fair definition, then where does volition or will fit in? Is it a "material" too? If I want to stay a Materialist, I have to say it is. And if so, then the phenomenon I perceive as my own volition or will is really nothing other than an interaction of matter, energy and scientific l...
by Londoner
Mon Jul 17, 2017 7:52 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: 100% Proof That Gods Do Not Exist
Replies: 352
Views: 3480

Re: 100% Proof That Gods Do Not Exist

Sorry, but no, it doesn't. You don't need more than two possibilities -- such as that either X will happen, or X will not -- and you have enough to make a probability calculation. And that's what we do all the time. We do not make 'probability calculations' all the time, we guess. We guess that if ...
by Londoner
Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:18 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: 100% Proof That Gods Do Not Exist
Replies: 352
Views: 3480

Re: 100% Proof That Gods Do Not Exist

The problem is that all Christians and all Atheists, and in fact, all persons who "know" anything are, in fact, claiming not to "know" absolutely, but rather to know probabilistically . All empirical knowledge is probabilistic, you see. I don't think so. Probability requires absolute knowledge in t...
by Londoner
Sat Jul 15, 2017 10:26 am
Forum: Logic and Philosophy of Mathematics
Topic: Patterns upon patterns
Replies: 29
Views: 359

Re: Patterns upon patterns

I know nothing of maths but I understood there is never any logical compulsion towards any particular answer. The rule might be that ' ...until you get to any number above 30, thereafter you multiply by 17 ', or anything else. This comes in Wittgenstein to do with 'rule following' and 'meaning', as ...
by Londoner
Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:07 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: 100% Proof That Gods Do Not Exist
Replies: 352
Views: 3480

Re: 100% Proof That Gods Do Not Exist

Me: Yes, if your concept of Supreme Being is coherent it will be coherent. It would then be a 'coherent concept '. Well, the OA begins when you answer that question: is "Supreme Being" a coherent concept. Do you regard it as such? Once again, I do not know because I do not know what you understand ...
by Londoner
Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:18 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: 100% Proof That Gods Do Not Exist
Replies: 352
Views: 3480

Re: 100% Proof That Gods Do Not Exist

Me: As to whether the Supreme Being is supposed to exist in additional sense to a concept, you always forget to say. Seriously? :shock: Of course. And in giving that response, yet again you seem to have forgotten to answer what must surely be a basic question. Me: Yes, if your concept of Supreme Be...
by Londoner
Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:25 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: 100% Proof That Gods Do Not Exist
Replies: 352
Views: 3480

Re: 100% Proof That Gods Do Not Exist

Me: I do not understand what this riddle has to do with the subject. Simple. You said you saw no value in establishing conceptual coherence. I said it was crucial, because that which is not conceptually coherent is also not something that can exist. You said you thought that maybe it could. I asked...
by Londoner
Wed Jul 12, 2017 3:51 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: 100% Proof That Gods Do Not Exist
Replies: 352
Views: 3480

Re: 100% Proof That Gods Do Not Exist

Me: Does the being have any physical, material existence - or does it exist is some form that is unconnected to the physical world - or is it simply an idea in your head; a 'possibility'? That's pretty clear, actually. In the conclusion, it's the normal meaning of "exist." I'm glad it's clear. Then...
by Londoner
Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:30 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: 100% Proof That Gods Do Not Exist
Replies: 352
Views: 3480

Re: 100% Proof That Gods Do Not Exist

Me: And we can only answer that if we know what the existence of the Supreme Being is supposed to entail. We do. There would be a "being." And this "being" would be supreme. See Plantinga. Does the being have any physical, material existence - or does it exist is some form that is unconnected to th...
by Londoner
Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:33 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: 100% Proof That Gods Do Not Exist
Replies: 352
Views: 3480

Re: 100% Proof That Gods Do Not Exist

But what you've forgotten again is the adjective "Supreme." If there were such a thing as a "supreme Clinton," he would have to be president not just in one possible world, but in all possible worlds. That's put lightly :wink: ...but it points you in the right OA direction. So is that the case? Is ...
by Londoner
Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:21 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: 100% Proof That Gods Do Not Exist
Replies: 352
Views: 3480

Re: 100% Proof That Gods Do Not Exist

Me: To understand that question I would have to know what you meant by 'exist'. No. It just means, "Do you have any reason to think that, given the right set of conditions (or "possible world") the Supreme Being could not exist, or do you regard His existence as a possibility, even if you don't con...
by Londoner
Tue Jul 11, 2017 10:23 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: 100% Proof That Gods Do Not Exist
Replies: 352
Views: 3480

Re: 100% Proof That Gods Do Not Exist

If you say X is possible, you are admitting there is a set of conditions under which you would concede that such an entity could exist. But you are not admitting that those conditions do exist. In one sense, it was possible that Clinton might be President - but it is impossible that Clinton is the ...