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by Londoner
Fri May 26, 2017 11:10 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.
Replies: 260
Views: 2258

Re: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.

I would think I was not. I would rather say I don't know what issue you're trying to make clear... Seleucus wrote that 'Islamic suicide attacks go back to the tradition of assassins from the time of the early caliphs.' I suggested that suicide attacks were not peculiar to Muslims and gave examples....
by Londoner
Fri May 26, 2017 7:51 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.
Replies: 260
Views: 2258

Re: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.

Me: The key point here is that it involves sacrificing your own life in order to achieve a moral/political/military objective. I'm saying this has long been considered praiseworthy. But that's the point. Jumping into a frozen river to save a child IS praiseworthy. So is the action of the solidier i...
by Londoner
Fri May 26, 2017 6:03 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.
Replies: 260
Views: 2258

Re: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.

Are you seriously suggesting you can't tell the difference between a suicide bomber and someone who, say, dives into a frozen river to save a drowning child? Oh, come now! :roll: We both know that you do not think that I was. Suicide bombing has to wait for the invention of modern explosives (where...
by Londoner
Fri May 26, 2017 5:47 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.
Replies: 260
Views: 2258

Re: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.

The morality in it is the destruction of the enemies of Western civilization. Defending you family and your people. Defending the apotheosis of civilization from heathens. As Jesus, the supreme warrior said, "I did not come to bring peace, I've brought the sword" (Matthew 10:34), or less well known...
by Londoner
Fri May 26, 2017 4:21 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.
Replies: 260
Views: 2258

Re: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.

What would be the point of remembering? That both George Wallace and Barack Obama both ran as Democrats would give you no insight into the politics of either of them. Oh, I disagree. I think you learn a very great deal by staying alert to the history there. But see if you agree: https://www.youtube...
by Londoner
Fri May 26, 2017 3:59 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.
Replies: 260
Views: 2258

Re: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.

What differentiated the violence committed by Muslims from that committed by the West in the Middle-East is that Western violence is in the service of defeating Islamism and vanguarding Western civilization, Islamists by contrast pursue Islamic society. Western civilization is something considerabl...
by Londoner
Fri May 26, 2017 1:27 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.
Replies: 260
Views: 2258

Re: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.

Let me get this right - you consider the US motives as Christian directed right? Just because some of the US politicians and military are 'Christian' doesnt mean they are claiming it is Christian inspired or motivated. They would have a hard time finding direction from Christ on such matters - not ...
by Londoner
Fri May 26, 2017 11:40 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.
Replies: 260
Views: 2258

Re: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.

Immanuel Can wrote:
Fri May 26, 2017 2:24 am
They also want you to forget that the party of slavery, the KKK and segregation was the "liberal" pack, i.e. the Democrats.
What would be the point of remembering? That both George Wallace and Barack Obama both ran as Democrats would give you no insight into the politics of either of them.
by Londoner
Fri May 26, 2017 9:00 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.
Replies: 260
Views: 2258

Re: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.

75% of that count comes from a single incident twenty-two years ago, the Oklahoma City bombing. Islamists are currently banging that number off every ten days. Islamism is a significantly more serious problem. What counts as 'Islamism' if we are counting? For example, if one Muslim kills another Mu...
by Londoner
Thu May 25, 2017 4:40 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.
Replies: 260
Views: 2258

Re: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.

]The religious ideology driving force i am talking about here is Islam. Semi-trailers\cars\knives\IEDs etc. used by ISLAMISTS. Come back when you comprehend logic. You are still being strangely restrictive with that list of weapons. Is your argument that it is a religious requirement for ISLAMIST t...
by Londoner
Thu May 25, 2017 4:24 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.
Replies: 260
Views: 2258

Re: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.

There ought be a technical term for this sort of argument, where you request examples but then place artificially narrow stipulations on the sort of answer you would accept. We are talking about religious ideology being the driving force here dickhead. Then why be so specific? Why do examples have ...
by Londoner
Thu May 25, 2017 4:17 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.
Replies: 260
Views: 2258

Re: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.

Me: Is there some reason why you don't give the name? Frankly? Amusement. It's fun to see people guess. I don't understand. You wrote: If you've lived in a culture where Islam is given free reign, then believe me, you have a very different perspective on what Islam is and does, and what happens to ...
by Londoner
Thu May 25, 2017 3:52 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.
Replies: 260
Views: 2258

Re: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.

Oh ok - could you point out the ones that drive semi-trailers through crowds of innocent people? ..and those that intentionally target children with IEDs? There ought be a technical term for this sort of argument, where you request examples but then place artificially narrow stipulations on the sor...
by Londoner
Thu May 25, 2017 3:12 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.
Replies: 260
Views: 2258

Re: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.

Immanuel Can wrote:
Thu May 25, 2017 2:13 pm
Raised in a "developing" country that still hasn't developed at all...in fact, one that declined into massacres and misery, but is lately recovered. Educated and living in the developed West.
Is there some reason why you don't give the name?
by Londoner
Thu May 25, 2017 9:43 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.
Replies: 260
Views: 2258

Re: I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.

Immanuel Can wrote:
Thu May 25, 2017 4:05 am

If you've lived in a culture where Islam is given free reign, then believe me, you have a very different perspective on what Islam is and does, and what happens to people when they believe it.
Where did - or do - you live?