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by Arising_uk
Sat Sep 23, 2017 2:33 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: How to exit the religious mess!
Replies: 79
Views: 510

Re: How to exit the religious mess!

The external world and the thoughts about the external world are the same phenomena. ... No they really aren't, one is the noumena the other are the phenomena. Where is the external world without the thought about it, ... In the noumena. can there be an external world separate from the thought abou...
by Arising_uk
Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:32 pm
Forum: The Lounge
Topic: Suicide by Cop by Troubled Activist
Replies: 77
Views: 928

Re: Suicide by Cop by Troubled Activist

They couldn't see that he was a child? Whether it looked 'real' or not shouldn't even come into it. You don't shoot children. You won't hear me arguing that this was another case of an ill-trained armed police force but given that in America a child could easily be capable of killing you with a gun...
by Arising_uk
Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:54 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Einstein and the Cosmic Man
Replies: 135
Views: 861

Re: Einstein and the Cosmic Man

Einstein could feel his nothingness in relation to "a spirit vastly superior to that of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble." ... Humbleness is not 'nothingness' this is just your religious indoctrination being added to the mix. Einstein said he was an agnos...
by Arising_uk
Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:38 am
Forum: The Lounge
Topic: Suicide by Cop by Troubled Activist
Replies: 77
Views: 928

Re: Suicide by Cop by Troubled Activist

... You should put a warning on your toy guns: 'Purchasing this toy carries the risk that your child will be murdered by cops if he plays with it'. Hmm... he was playing with an Airsoft pellet gun which had it's orange marker removed in a public place and was pointing it at the public you'd be hard...
by Arising_uk
Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:37 pm
Forum: The Lounge
Topic: Suicide by Cop by Troubled Activist
Replies: 77
Views: 928

Re: Suicide by Cop by Troubled Activist

... People can only assess a situation with as much data as is present to them, and the fact that the knife was folded, or his prior mental condition was not present to the police involved. Perhaps them knowing this would have changed the sentiment and severity of the threat, but they didn't, and I...
by Arising_uk
Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:30 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: How God could fail to convey His message?
Replies: 412
Views: 12767

Re: How God could fail to convey His message?

Dontaskme wrote:No one.
Did someone hear something?
Yep, nonsense, but it's fun to try and make sense of it.
Only to the nonsensical.
by Arising_uk
Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:29 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: How to exit the religious mess!
Replies: 79
Views: 510

Re: How to exit the religious mess!

Dontaskme wrote:Nowhere.
So non-existent then.
by Arising_uk
Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:28 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: How to exit the religious mess!
Replies: 79
Views: 510

Re: How to exit the religious mess!

The external world is a concept arising in the you who has no location. So where are you typing from? The phenomenon of the external world is that there is an external world as without it no phenomena. It's not all in your head and if you think it is I invite you to step in front of that big red ob...
by Arising_uk
Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:26 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: How to exit the religious mess!
Replies: 79
Views: 510

Re: How to exit the religious mess!

Dontaskme wrote:What you are is not imagined, what you are not is.
I know as what I am is a body with senses, memory and a language in an external world. No idea how what I am not can be imagined as it is not?
by Arising_uk
Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:24 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: How to exit the religious mess!
Replies: 79
Views: 510

Re: How to exit the religious mess!

Dontaskme wrote:Yes, and that's all there is to understand.
But there is no you or all to understand? I'm at a loss why you talk.
by Arising_uk
Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:23 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: How to exit the religious mess!
Replies: 79
Views: 510

Re: How to exit the religious mess!

No, what you are does not change. The I am is changeless. I thought you said it was non-existent? "I am not my thoughts, feelings, circumstances of changing events in life, I am the awareness, the alertness, the changeless which remains present behind it." Who said this? As they miss that this is b...
by Arising_uk
Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:22 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Einstein and the Cosmic Man
Replies: 135
Views: 861

Re: Einstein and the Cosmic Man

Nick_A wrote:... Einstein could experience his nothingness so didn't get in his own way. ...
You couldn't make this up. Oh! You did.
by Arising_uk
Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:17 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Einstein and the Cosmic Man
Replies: 135
Views: 861

Re: Einstein and the Cosmic Man

Those who believe we live in chaos reject the harmony of creation. ... And yet Physics points out that its all only relatively probable. No idea who these believers in chaos are? Those who see the harmony of creation know it reflects universal laws which cannot arise by accident. ... The former bit...
by Arising_uk
Thu Sep 21, 2017 5:48 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Secular Intolerance
Replies: 1224
Views: 18761

Re: Secular Intolerance

Nick_A wrote:... foxnews.com/entertainment/...
:lol: :lol: :lol: Fuxs News and the entertainment section to boot.

So much for the 'enlightenment'.
by Arising_uk
Thu Sep 21, 2017 5:45 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: How God could fail to convey His message?
Replies: 412
Views: 12767

Re: How God could fail to convey His message?

I'm not you, there is only you. Who said that? There is only you because there is no other than you. Is someone saying something? I'm in you in the sense you have created me in your mind. You said earlier..''Blimey! Then who are you?'' as if I actually existed separate from you, but all you were do...