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by Arising_uk
Tue Sep 26, 2017 1:27 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: How to exit the religious mess!
Replies: 188
Views: 1123

Re: How to exit the religious mess!

We're not a thing, we are the knower of the thing, that cannot be known. We are a thing, it's called a body. No, these are concepts, a parent doesn't know anything, it is an already known concept of this immediate knowing awareness. That which is known can't know anything, it only exists as an idea...
by Arising_uk
Tue Sep 26, 2017 1:25 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: How to exit the religious mess!
Replies: 188
Views: 1123

Re: How to exit the religious mess!

If I am able to become aware of my body moving before I the body am aware of it...then I must precede the body action of moving in the chair. ... Try it. The next time you notice your body shifting check if you moved it. I must be the awareness of the action not the action itself? You can be, you c...
by Arising_uk
Tue Sep 26, 2017 1:20 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: How to exit the religious mess!
Replies: 188
Views: 1123

Re: How to exit the religious mess!

You are projecting an idea that there is someone separate from you who is born and who dies...there is not and I've explained this many times to you, but you do not see it. ... No, I'm positing the idea that I am a body that is born, ages and dies and that when it dies so do I. Have you as the watc...
by Arising_uk
Tue Sep 26, 2017 12:28 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: How to exit the religious mess!
Replies: 188
Views: 1123

Re: How to exit the religious mess!

But can you find this concrete thing that knows that?..where is the knower of that knowledge? We're it. Do you not see a big gaping hole in the argument? Sorry, bit slow, so no. Please explain. And who is this ''we'' that claims such knowledge, are they the little tin foiled hat people who think th...
by Arising_uk
Tue Sep 26, 2017 12:21 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: How to exit the religious mess!
Replies: 188
Views: 1123

Re: How to exit the religious mess!

It's not the body that experiences itself, the body is not aware...so how can a body that is not aware experience itself? I told you, you are not paying attention to your body as the body is aware of many things, for example, next time you are sitting become aware of how the body moves to ease disc...
by Arising_uk
Tue Sep 26, 2017 12:17 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: How to exit the religious mess!
Replies: 188
Views: 1123

Re: How to exit the religious mess!

Lets try and refrain from semantics, and look at what is being pointed to. I'm going to use the word ''presence'' as a CONCEPTUAL reference to PURE AWARENESS ... You do understand that this is semantics? No matter... What do you mean by "PURE AWARENESS"? (and why does it have to be in caps?) To kno...
by Arising_uk
Tue Sep 26, 2017 11:37 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: How to exit the religious mess!
Replies: 188
Views: 1123

Re: How to exit the religious mess!

The body functions silently alone all by itself without any conscious attention. It does not need you to function. ... Wrong, some functions of the body were conscious actions once, they have just been made subconscious. You don't exist. ... Who are you talking to then? Good example of that is when...
by Arising_uk
Tue Sep 26, 2017 11:31 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: How to exit the religious mess!
Replies: 188
Views: 1123

Re: How to exit the religious mess!

Awareness is not an object, awareness cannot experience itself as an object...it is aware of an object, but if you believe awareness is an object, then explain what it feels like to be the heart, or the blood, or the lung, or a leg, or an arm, etc? I didn't say awareness is an object I said the obj...
by Arising_uk
Tue Sep 26, 2017 10:39 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Einstein and the Cosmic Man
Replies: 267
Views: 2016

Re: Einstein and the Cosmic Man

... Preposterous you will say. It is an insult to modern philosophy to even suggest it. Fight to your last ounce of strength to assert anddefend your opinions. Close your mind; holler and complain. It is the modern way. I know it is a shock but some people are not that way. Take a deep breath and d...
by Arising_uk
Tue Sep 26, 2017 10:36 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: How to exit the religious mess!
Replies: 188
Views: 1123

Re: How to exit the religious mess!

Dontaskme wrote:Yep, that's it, I AM... but I AM nothing without my knowledge...and what I AM is not my knowledge...for I AM ALWAYS with or without it.
You're not paying attention to your body.
by Arising_uk
Tue Sep 26, 2017 10:35 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: How to exit the religious mess!
Replies: 188
Views: 1123

Re: How to exit the religious mess!

Dontaskme wrote:What you are can't die, it was never born, and that's the really good news.

There is no bad news.
Untrue if you believe this as the bad news is that you are reifying being alive into 'Life' and living things, in general, die.
by Arising_uk
Tue Sep 26, 2017 10:33 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: How to exit the religious mess!
Replies: 188
Views: 1123

Re: How to exit the religious mess!

The thought ''I am a separate person'' and there is an external world outside of me is not real. ... There is nothing realer. The external world cannot be outside of you because where ever you go, there you are, you cannot step into an outside world, the external world is in your consciousness, you...
by Arising_uk
Tue Sep 26, 2017 10:27 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: How to exit the religious mess!
Replies: 188
Views: 1123

Re: How to exit the religious mess!

You are the awareness of the body and the senses and the external world. ... Not quite, I am the awareness that the body and senses produce of the external world. The body and the senses and the external world are appearances in you, for without you there is nothing. Except for an external world th...
by Arising_uk
Tue Sep 26, 2017 10:18 am
Forum: Philosophy of Religion
Topic: How to exit the religious mess!
Replies: 188
Views: 1123

Re: How to exit the religious mess!

Knowledge is knowing you exist. In truth, nothing knows it exists. ... Poor old Descartes than. Therefore, this knowing you exist knowledge is an illusory addendum upon original not-knowing reality. ... This syllogism would be true if it wasn't for the fact that this "In truth, nothing knows it exi...
by Arising_uk
Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:16 am
Forum: Political Philosophy
Topic: How America Should Solve Its So-called Immigration Problem
Replies: 25
Views: 342

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"Good god." http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/09/01/daca-backdoor-granted-green-cards-45000-illegals/ "Surprising how so many people in this forum simply have no idea what they are talking about." But a green card isn't a right to stay? It's just a right to work, sensible unless you want...