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by Greta
Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:41 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Secular Spirituality
Replies: 156
Views: 2705

Re: Secular Spirituality

I'd love to know what's spiritual about Sagan or Tyson especially the latter. What have they said or done which makes them spiritual? Tyson keeps proclaiming that humans are made of star stuff but left out the Ebola virus, cancer cells and suchlike. Everything existing in the universe, animate or i...
by Greta
Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:51 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Secular Spirituality
Replies: 156
Views: 2705

Re: Secular Spirituality

Dubious, that some indigenous societies were better or worse environmental custodians than others is to be expected.; it would be strange if they were all equally environmentally knowledgeable. The fact is that indigenous people cannot possible live on a land for thousands of years without knowing f...
by Greta
Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:37 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Secular Spirituality
Replies: 156
Views: 2705

Re: Secular Spirituality

... Carl Sagan, Neil DeGrasse ... You are correct that people like Sagan and Tyson do embrace the weirdness of existence. I would consider each to be "spiritual", much more so than many who claim to be, and they are/were too open-minded to lock themselves into materialism. They never held ideologie...
by Greta
Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:05 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Secular Spirituality
Replies: 156
Views: 2705

Re: Secular Spirituality

The real story is far more complex and less friendly to the environment. Even the Mayans disappeared, not in being conquered by Europeans or anyone else, but by their own excessive degradation of the environment. The real story in Australia is very much as I said above; they knew the land and under...
by Greta
Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:54 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Secular Spirituality
Replies: 156
Views: 2705

Re: Secular Spirituality

Conde Lucanor wrote:
Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:09 am
Why not just secularism? Why not just humanism?
Because they are as boring at batshit, pardon my French, monsieur. I am interested in the weirdness of existence that materialists tend to ignore, deny or gloss over and theists tend to overstate or embellish.
by Greta
Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:12 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Secular Spirituality
Replies: 156
Views: 2705

Re: Secular Spirituality

The reason is that it's just another abstract broad label into which people can put almost anything they want, it doesn't mean anything and it doesn't have to mean anything (except for the people who require that it means something). It just appears to be a concept that orbits in the vicinity of "p...
by Greta
Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:22 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Secular Spirituality
Replies: 156
Views: 2705

Re: Secular Spirituality

Some people are so attached to logic, sensibleness and practicality that they find it distasteful to "let go", aside from accepted conventional areas of release like sex and thrillseeking. So they contain their own capacity to rhapsodise, to become carried away - and then they scoff at believers fo...
by Greta
Sat Jan 20, 2018 2:57 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Secular Spirituality
Replies: 156
Views: 2705

Re: Secular Spirituality

Either way it is just glorified egoism worshiping society and sometimes Crowley Crowley as the Great Beast and provider of human meaning and purpose. Blahdy blahdy blah. You are as much unable to grasp the idea of secular spirituality as Conde's impression of homoeopathic new age crystalhood. It's ...
by Greta
Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:46 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Secular Spirituality
Replies: 156
Views: 2705

Re: Secular Spirituality

For instance, there is not one joke in the bible. There may be many jokes in there for all we know, in which case people could be living by the tenets of ancient satire :) I'm sorry, Greta, but I trust myself to laugh when something is funny. The Bible has not one funny line. This is important. To ...
by Greta
Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:16 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Secular Spirituality
Replies: 156
Views: 2705

Re: Secular Spirituality

Greta, as Marjoram_blues seems to have noticed (since I've stated it repeatedly) I have chosen to focus on the Wikipedia article. And I've just stated above that I'm not saying what Greta believes or should believe, but yet you come back to complain about it. I know my English is not top notch, but...
by Greta
Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:21 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Secular Spirituality
Replies: 156
Views: 2705

Re: Secular Spirituality

-1- wrote:
Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:55 pm
For instance, there is not one joke in the bible.
There may be many jokes in there for all we know, in which case people could be living by the tenets of ancient satire :)
by Greta
Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:45 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Secular Spirituality
Replies: 156
Views: 2705

Re: Secular Spirituality

Conde, I have made clear what I see as secular spirituality. I would rather not have the Wiki article attributed to me - I happen to have my own mind which means that my version of secular spirituality does not coincide with Wikipedia's. Why are you attributing things I haven't said to me? Why try ...
by Greta
Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:21 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Scapegoats for Secular Progressives
Replies: 115
Views: 2304

Re: Scapegoats for Secular Progressives

Greta Yes, but it would be hard to explain in a post. However if you are open to what Meister Eckhart writes it will provide a foundation. The seed of the human soul will either perish, be saved, or be nourished to grow so as to become the soul of Man. Sometimes a partially developed seed reincarna...
by Greta
Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:19 am
Forum: The Lounge
Topic: Verbal abuse and cyber-bullying on Philosophy Now forums
Replies: 371
Views: 7291

Re: Verbal abuse and cyber-bullying on Philosophy Now forums

One way of preventing the forces of tyranny from prevailing is to not vote for the biggest autocrat and environmental vandal! The claim about freedom and avoiding regulation is ironic. I look forward to women's freedom over their own bodies. Or everyone's freedom to die with dignity rather than suf...
by Greta
Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:45 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Secular Spirituality
Replies: 156
Views: 2705

Re: Secular Spirituality

marjoram_blues wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:57 am
Unfortunately, CL chooses to focus on certain aspects of the wiki content, despite being corrected.
A good devil's advocate, but needs to eschew the low hanging fruit :)