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by marjoram_blues
Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:12 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Secular Spirituality
Replies: 101
Views: 1627

Re: Secular Spirituality

...There is an interesting parallel between the Socratic revolution and the focus on science in philosophy today. Socrates turned from the natural philosophy of his predecessors to a concern for the human things, that is to say, political philosophy. Plato and Aristotle’s answer was not so much a f...
by marjoram_blues
Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:06 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Secular Spirituality
Replies: 101
Views: 1627

Re: Secular Spirituality

Marjoram_blues: How can philosophy self-correct ? The content or syllabus could change… In my opinion, most importantly, by a recognition of the centrality of what is often derisively called psycholism and lived experience.I am not prone to use the word 'spiritualism' because in order to be underst...
by marjoram_blues
Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:57 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Secular Spirituality
Replies: 101
Views: 1627

Re: Secular Spirituality

For a final clarification re the OP and the exploratory nature of this thread: Most here will have noted the wiki link provided in the OP was the starting point for exploration with a specific interest in the quote by Solomon. There has been an invaluable sharing of ideas and experience, including o...
by marjoram_blues
Tue Jan 16, 2018 10:29 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Secular Spirituality
Replies: 101
Views: 1627

Re: Secular Spirituality

For those at a back of the classroom who may have missed some earlier comments: ... I see spirituality as everyday , something that all but the most damaged routinely engage in. Kindness, consideration, amiability, cooperativeness, empathising, nurturing, defending, supporting, entertaining, listen...
by marjoram_blues
Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:43 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Secular Spirituality
Replies: 101
Views: 1627

Re: Secular Spirituality

There is no sense in which I started this discussion with a view to 'endorse a [particular] type of secularism'. There seems to be an instinct to attack any interest in this aspect of the human condition with false accusations. There is no attack on materialism as suggested. Once you plant the seed...
by marjoram_blues
Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:52 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Secular Spirituality
Replies: 101
Views: 1627

Re: Secular Spirituality

Following up one of fooloso4's recommendations, Alexander Nehamas - not the book but a 12 minute mp3 http://philosophybites.libsyn.com/alexander_nehamas_on_friendship -------------- Then there is this: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/friendship/ Blocks of solid text. Perhaps it is not so much the...
by marjoram_blues
Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:12 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Secular Spirituality
Replies: 101
Views: 1627

Re: Secular Spirituality

marjoram_blues: … Pierre Hadot .... Hadot’s "Philosophy as a Way of Life", "What is Ancient Philosophy", and "The Inner Citadel: The Meditations of Marcus Aurelius" are helpful for seeing philosophy as therapeutic and transformative practice, an aspect of philosophy that has been occluded by a narr...
by marjoram_blues
Tue Jan 16, 2018 10:00 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Secular Spirituality
Replies: 101
Views: 1627

Re: Secular Spirituality - with nod to Rick and team

What have 'spiritual exercises' got to do with philosophy? Continuing the theme of exploring the goals of philosophy and Solomon's suggestion that 'secular spirituality' might be the ultimate one. For an overview on philosophy: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy Here, I found an entry on Pie...
by marjoram_blues
Mon Jan 15, 2018 3:44 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Secular Spirituality
Replies: 101
Views: 1627

Re: Secular Spirituality

Marjoram-Blues wrote: I think there is a suggestion of playing the devil's advocate. A useful tool to enable further clarification of thought for the sake of debate. I agree that devil's advocate is a useful tool. Yeah, I noticed already. My sweet honey-tongued spirit medium and guide told me to lo...
by marjoram_blues
Mon Jan 15, 2018 11:57 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Secular Spirituality
Replies: 101
Views: 1627

Re: Secular Spirituality

I agree with Conde Lucanor that New Age gives the word 'spirituality' a banal connotation. I mean, we all love hippies, but we don't much like po-faced but silly arguments. However there is more substance to ideas of spirituality than many New Agers express. I am sure that Condor is intelligent eno...
by marjoram_blues
Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:05 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Secular Spirituality
Replies: 101
Views: 1627

Re: Secular Spirituality

Whether it was tone, style or whatever that did not allow me to embrace the content of the article, I don't put in doubt that the content does reflect what "secular spirituality"is all about. I guess that means that as a secularist, humanist and atheist, I cannot endorse this "secular spirituality"...
by marjoram_blues
Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:56 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Secular Spirituality
Replies: 101
Views: 1627

Re: Secular Spirituality

For anyone just joining the discussion, I think it is worthwhile to read and reflect on this post of fooloso4, particularly this first paragraph. So far, we have focused more on what 'spirituality' might mean, rather than look at what 'philosophy' might mean. I'm not sure that is true that secular s...
by marjoram_blues
Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:06 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Secular Spirituality
Replies: 101
Views: 1627

Re: Secular Spirituality

Greta, one thing which stayed in my mind after reading your substantial post was: the capacity to rhapsodize, to get carried away - and how some might downplay this or even scorn others for having a higher degree of passionate enthusiasm. Emotions having less value, to their way of thinking, than ra...
by marjoram_blues
Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:45 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Secular Spirituality
Replies: 101
Views: 1627

Re: Secular Spirituality

"Secular spirituality." :lol: Gawd, I love oxymorons. :lol: Don't people use dictionaries anymore? It's not an oxymoron. You would recognize this if you make time and effort to read and reflect rather than reflexively react. That answers my question. :mrgreen: Note: I didn’t say a secular person ca...