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Even the article you posted disagrees with you

OK, I am not 100% sure that the universe is not made of chocolate. I am "only" 99.99999999999% sure. Good grief, first you believe that square circles exist, that Einstein"s relativity is bunk and now the universe is made of chocolate. This "debate" is getting too silly.

You wrote,"What the fuck does it even mean to "contradict reality".
if I say that the universe is made of chocolate that contradicts reality.

Suppose someone says, " It is raining here and now and NO water is falling from the sky." I do not have to go out and check the weather. I already know he is incorrect because reality cannot contradict itself. The IDEA " It is raining here and now and NO water is falling from the sky....

Suppose the cat is actually on the mat and I say the cat is on the mat and it is not on the mat. That is a contradiction even tho the cat is actually on the mat. The reality cannot contradict itself but one idea can contradict another IDEA. That's not a contradiction. That's just an incorrect descr...

I already answered that! Ideas can contradict each other. Reality cannot. And yes, ideas exist but not in the same way that actual objects do." I can say that vampires exist" yes that idea exists but that does not mean that actual vampires exist.

Suppose the cat is actually on the mat and I say the cat is on the mat and it is not on the mat. That is a contradiction even tho the cat is actually on the mat. The reality cannot contradict itself but one idea can contradict another IDEA.

You wrote, "I am saying that the idea "contradiction" doesn't exist."
So 2 ideas cannot contradict each other. I disagree.

Ahh now I get your confusion. When I say that contradictions cannot exist I mean that only noncontradictory statements reflect reality. When you say that contradictions cannot exist you are saying that no two statements can ever contradict each other. Of course 2 ideas can contradict each other. But...

Good grief! I never said that the idea "vampire" doesn't exist. I implied that the "vampire" does not reflect an actual reality. Bye, enjoy your anger!

You wrote, "if "contradictions" don't exist - then why are we even talking about them?" I already answered that! I said that it is important to classify fallacies. That's a non-sequitur. If contradictions don't exist, they are useless towards your goal. Anyway, when you calm dow...

BTW anyone can scroll back and see what your position was.

Ahh now I get your confusion. When I say that contradictions cannot exist I mean that only noncontradictory statements reflect reality. When you say that contradictions cannot exist you are saying that no two statements can ever contradict each other. That's not my confusion, that's yours... You do...

You wrote, "if "contradictions" don't exist - then why are we even talking about them?"
I already answered that! I said that it is important to classify fallacies.
Anyway, when you calm down and actually keep track of the conversation I will be back.

Ahh now I get your confusion. When I say that contradictions cannot exist I mean that only noncontradictory statements reflect reality. When you say that contradictions cannot exist you are saying that no two statements can ever contradict each other.